VCE Year 12 Class of 2015

[appleandbee]

How'd you go in the end? Hope you did well (probably smashed it in the end)!
I wouldn't say conflicting arguments but more like one-on-one talk with Mum and Dad individually and together about what I wanted to do in university and to stamp out wrong ideas my parents had about specific courses that I was choosing from (Biomed or Law)...  just keep it up and if they realise you know what you're doing then you should be fine in the end! As for ATAR well I haven't told them my score nor do they know about it from others 

I swear our views on ATARs, scores and parents are so similar! I didn't tell my parents my ATAR or Study Scores either, nor do they know it from other people. The only people who I've told are my tutors (who my parents don’t communicate to) and a couple of close friends. The only things I told my parents were the courses I'm interested in and that my ATAR meets my course requirements, which they were fine with. Obviously they have more ideal courses in mind (they don’t like the Melbourne model much), but they accepted my wishes after I spoke to them about it.

[Orb]

I swear our views on ATARs, scores and parents are so similar! I didn't tell my parents my ATAR or Study Scores either, nor do they know it my other people. The only people who I've told are my tutors (who my parents don’t communicate to) and a couple of close friends. The only things I told my parents were the courses I'm interested in and that my ATAR meets my course requirements, which they were fine with. Obviously they have more ideal courses in mind (they don’t like the Melbourne model much), but they accepted my wishes after I spoke to them about it.

Holy crapola how'd you manage?

Some parents would disown their kids if they didn't show it to them

[Swagadaktal]

Holy crapola how'd you manage?

Some parents would disown their kids if they didn't show it to them

Damn you guys are so hardcore
my parents barely cared - they got annoyed I woke them up lol

[babushka818]

Damn you guys are so hardcore
my parents barely cared - they got annoyed I woke them up lol

Some interesting perspectives here.. My parents would demand to see it! Like not telling them was never even an option that ever crossed my mind. Still, strawberries, just keep fighting. It is your life and do what you are comfortable and happy with. Your parents will be better once they see you happy and doing what you're passionate about

[appleandbee]

Holy crapola how'd you manage?

Some parents would disown their kids if they didn't show it to them

I know right, I'm just as surprised too. They obviously would prefer to know, but unlike year 11, knowing my scores wouldn't benefit them much so they didn't force it upon me (it year 11 they can be pissed at me and tell me not to do the same in year 12). It was really awkward though, because all their friends (most of whom don’t have kids) kept demanding to know and asked my parents to check it themselves. Also partially because my study scores aren’t amazing, I didn't get any 48+ SS, so they aren’t really keen on knowing (just told me that a respectable atar is a product of scaling in cases such as mine so it doesn't really mean much). I'm not in the chancellor’s scholar’s league either, so yeah.

[strawberries]

Holy crapola how'd you manage?

Some parents would disown their kids if they didn't show it to them

^^this

How the heck did your parents not know
I wish mine didn't care too much about it. They've been planning my VCE since I was in Year 5 lmao

I still don't know why tf they want to care about what I want to do this year/next year/the rest of my life...like I'm soo sick of them controlling what I do...

Tough love by your parents... but you just have to stick to your guns and know what you're doing with your life because their views are most likely to be outdated etc. so you just have to persevere since their "anger" at you won't go on forever.

Angry that you deferred placement interstate? Probably a knee-jerk reaction but just wait till the 18th and they'll be fine with it (unless you intend to go interstate that is).

I deferred it because I didn't want to go to university yet (gap year).

[anna.xo]

like I'm soo sick of them controlling what I do...

Welcome to my life. I'm guessing you either Chinese or Indian, and all those parents are the same. They think that by controlling you they're protecting you and being good parents. Little do they realize that they're driving us away -.-

Anyway, good luck. You do you and who cares if your parents disown you. Probably not the type of people you deserve anyway.

[Swagadaktal]

Welcome to my life. I'm guessing you either Chinese or Indian, and all those parents are the same. They think that by controlling you they're protecting you and being good parents. Little do they realize that they're driving us away -.-

Anyway, good luck. You do you and who cares if your parents disown you. Probably not the type of people you deserve anyway.

I think we need to calm down and put things into perspective...
Maybe I'm naive because my parents aren't anywhere near as harsh as your parents are :O
But I'm like 98% sure they're doing this because they think its the best thing for you and your future. Anyone that wants the best for you is a good person to have in your life.
Now, whether they're wrong or right to hijack your life is a whole different issue. But guys can we please stop hating on the people who have sacrificed so much for us? Families fight, but don't let VCAA win again. Don't let VCAA ruin your connection with your family, they've already had their go to ruin your lives in year 12.

[Splash-Tackle-Flail]

Good luck dude!

Thanks heaps!

[Splash-Tackle-Flail]

How'd you go in the end? Hope you did well (probably smashed it in the end)!

Pretty good I think-  it's impossible to tell amongst poker faces and the natural subjectivity of interviews! Can't go into too much detail though But it was actually really fun in my opinion- much preferable over the old-fashioned panel interviews.

[Adequace]

Welcome to my life. I'm guessing you either Chinese or Indian, and all those parents are the same. They think that by controlling you they're protecting you and being good parents. Little do they realize that they're driving us away -.-

Anyway, good luck. You do you and who cares if your parents disown you. Probably not the type of people you deserve anyway.

I find that generalising all Chinese and Indian parents as the same is quite offensive. I think you have to realise why parents from these backgrounds force their children in to 'respected' professions is because they want their children to live comfortably with a decent job and not have to worry about their finances, due to the fact many of them came to Australia from poorer families.

Don't think many parents would disown their child over choosing one course over another either.

[heids]

I still don't know why tf they want to care about what I want to do this year/next year/the rest of my life...like I'm soo sick of them controlling what I do...
I deferred it because I didn't want to go to university yet (gap year).

Have you told them that the gap year will make you more employable during uni (if you do something worthwhile), and also give you more experience so you'll be better able to get an elite job after uni?  Try and think about what they want for you and why - look at it from their perspective - and then figure out ways to present the gap year as the best possible way of achieving that.

It's actually great to have parents that really care about you - cherish it; you're better off than so many.  But be aware that you'll have to really give them reasons why your choices are going to help you and them.  Going out of your way to be polite and loving and thinking about them and their perspective is what's going to win them over.  They do want your best!

Pretty good I think-  it's impossible to tell amongst poker faces and the natural subjectivity of interviews! Can't go into too much detail though But it was actually really fun in my opinion- much preferable over the old-fashioned panel interviews.

Awesome, Splash! I'm sure you smashed it as always

[IndefatigableLover]

I swear our views on ATARs, scores and parents are so similar! I didn't tell my parents my ATAR or Study Scores either, nor do they know it from other people. The only people who I've told are my tutors (who my parents don’t communicate to) and a couple of close friends. The only things I told my parents were the courses I'm interested in and that my ATAR meets my course requirements, which they were fine with. Obviously they have more ideal courses in mind (they don’t like the Melbourne model much), but they accepted my wishes after I spoke to them about it.

Haha yes somebody else who's done the same thing as I have xD (I've only told my SS to my tutors and ATAR to a couple of friends)!
I just told them that my ATAR meets my course requirement(s) and was tossing up between a few which I had a chat about (since they too dislike the Melbourne model) and though I did get the silent treatment from Mum (which lasted for a whole week), it was settled pretty quickly because of scholarship offers (and two chocolate bouquets from Monash too LOL)

I deferred it because I didn't want to go to university yet (gap year).

I second bangali_lok's thoughts as well! Provided you've put in lots of thought into why you want to take a gap year (which I'm sure you have), then this coming year they'll realise that in the end you've made the right choice and just let you be. Sure your parents may seem controlling now but they'll loosen their grip on you over time especially when you head to uni next year since you're already admitted into your course already!

Pretty good I think-  it's impossible to tell amongst poker faces and the natural subjectivity of interviews! Can't go into too much detail though But it was actually really fun in my opinion- much preferable over the old-fashioned panel interviews.

Haha that's good as to hear!
I also like MMI's since they're straight to the point vs. old-fashioned panel interviews where people try to seem friendly and get you to relax when really "did you actually get your point across?" :|

And who from the Class of 2015 is coming to the meetup on the 16th?

[appleandbee]

I think we need to calm down and put things into perspective...
Maybe I'm naive because my parents aren't anywhere near as harsh as your parents are :O
But I'm like 98% sure they're doing this because they think its the best thing for you and your future. Anyone that wants the best for you is a good person to have in your life.
Now, whether they're wrong or right to hijack your life is a whole different issue. But guys can we please stop hating on the people who have sacrificed so much for us? Families fight, but don't let VCAA win again. Don't let VCAA ruin your connection with your family, they've already had their go to ruin your lives in year 12.

Yep, as someone who has Chinese parents (Macau lel) who are harsh most of the time, there's is a reason behind their opinion. While I don't share the same views on many issues with them, I understand their perspective which is informed by their experiences. True, some of their opinions could be based on ignorance, but at the end of the day, they just want the best. Many young people believe that things will turn out right and in the end they don't. Wrong uni course choice is an all too common experience (some of which is caused by parental pressure). I have a family friend who wasn't the type that spoke to parents and she switched universities twice within her first year. From RMIT (dropped out after the first week) to Vic uni (started mid year), then to Swinburne. Her parents never knew she switched universities until they got phone calls from her friends. A bit of guidance and care can go a long way. I do think though at some point, we got to make our own decisions and take responsibility for them, even with the ones that doesn't yield desirable outcomes. Mistakes are just a necessary evil at times in order to achieve great things.

As for the gap year, talk about your plans to your parents as well as why you think it would be beneficial. If you feel like you are not ready or just don't want to go to uni yet, explain that to them. Just don't do it simply because it seems like a hip thing to do. I also don't think you should be too disappointed with your ATAR, considering that it's enough for your first preference (the most important thing in the end).

[pi]

Did anyone have the pleasure of having me for their MMI interview?