CAS Calculator

[fdhgdzh]

go up to them and tell them "i know what you did, and if you want me to be quiet, it will cost you..." haha jokes, but seriously there is no benefit for yourself if you do so..

Money sounds good

[Stick]

I'm not very happy right now, there's only three chemistry students in my class, and like all of you, we just sat the exam. Myself and one of the other students followed the rules, and brought in a scientific calculator, whereas the other brought in A CAS CALCULATOR. Our teacher wasn't there to meet us before the exam, and the examiners made it clear that we could only bring in a scientific calculator, but didn't bother checking what calculators we actually had. So the person who brought the CAS calculator in, got away with using it. I'm pretty frustrated, as there could have been notes on the CAS calculator. I'd love to dob on this person, but I'm not too sure how to go about it, because I can't exactly prove that he/she had it. Does anyone have any suggestions, or should I just let it go, and hope that there were no notes on this persons calculator?

Don't buy any of this "oh just let it go" bullshit. Most people who say it are probably just too chicken to do anything about it themselves. I'm not saying to "dob" on this person for your own gain, but rather to hold the other person accountable for their misconduct. Everyone should be on the same level for VCE exams. Think about yourself, the other person, the majority of the state, who actually did the right thing. You've all worked far too hard for some douchebag to suit himself and just go walking right all over you. That guy was clearly at an unfair advantage. Let him suffer the consequences for doing so. They totally deserve it. You're about to enter the real world now, and you need to start standing up for yourself, and say that this sort of behaviour is not OK. At least talk to your VCE co-ordinator and see if anything can be done at all. The person's conscience could give way too, so even if VCAA can't do anything about it, you might still be able to achieve justice just by getting the ball rolling.

Maybe I'm being a bit too aggressive about it, but I just had an exam where the person behind me was kicking my seat and others were talking. Luckily they were all held responsible, but I'm a bit pissed off nonetheless.

[Damoz.G]

BTW, I just wanna add as well, its a risk to put notes onto a CAS, just in case if your teacher was there today as you walked into the Exam room. Personally, I'd actually study and revise for those 3 hours spent typing notes onto a CAS. Its a risk, and it would be a complete waste of time if your teacher was there and noticed and then told the student that they couldn't use a CAS, especially because you are only allowed one Calculator.

If they did work on adding notes throughout the year, then thats a different story.

[fdhgdzh]

Don't buy any of this "oh just let it go" bullshit. Most people who say it are probably just too chicken to do anything about it themselves. I'm not saying to "dob" on this person for your own gain, but rather to hold the other person accountable for their misconduct. Everyone should be on the same level for VCE exams. Think about yourself, the other person, the majority of the state, who actually did the right thing. You've all worked far too hard for some douchebag to suit himself and just go walking right all over you. That guy was clearly at an unfair advantage. Let him suffer the consequences for doing so. They totally deserve it. You're about to enter the real world now, and you need to start standing up for yourself, and say that this sort of behaviour is not OK. At least talk to your VCE co-ordinator and see if anything can be done at all. The person's conscience could give way too, so even if VCAA can't do anything about it, you might still be able to achieve justice just by getting the ball rolling.

Maybe I'm being a bit too aggressive about it, but I just had an exam where the person behind me was kicking my seat and others were talking. Luckily they were all held responsible, but I'm a bit pissed off nonetheless.

I like how you think, you've pretty much described how I'm feeling right now.

[hobbitle]

Summed up my entire post above in two sentences.

You write a lot. :-P

[Stick]

I like how you think, you've pretty much described how I'm feeling right now.

Well you can't possibly expect to fight every one of these battles in life, but I'd definitely do something now.

[Damoz.G]

Stick has explained that very well.

Just want to add that if the student isn't a close friend or even a friend, then you're probably not gonna see them again, apart from the last few school events such as Valedictory or Dux Assembly. So go for it but if you do, it has to be today! Talk to your principal or head of campus TODAY! It just HAS to be TODAY! No question about it.

If you don't report it today and instead do it tomorrow, you will look sus and the school AND VCAA will question why you didn't say anything before, during or straight after the exam.

[FatAids]

Retarded examiners obviously

[MonsieurHulot]

But you can't prove it. Even if it's two against one, the teachers/VCAA won't decide in your favour if the only proof you've got is your word against theirs.

[fdhgdzh]

Retarded examiners obviously

Yeah I actually thought they would check the calculators, since there were only three of us. I was disappointed that they didn't pick up on it, but then again, it's my fault too for not speaking up. They probably didn't even know the difference between a CAS and scientific calculator anyway.

[fdhgdzh]

But you can't prove it. Even if it's two against one, the teachers/VCAA won't decide in your favour if the only proof you've got is your word against theirs.

That's what's holding me back, I don't think the other student noticed, so it will be my word against the cheater. I don't want to be a time waster, or have them think that I'm lying.

[Stick]

If you say something and nothing is done, what's the worst that could happen?

[Damoz.G]

Yeah I actually thought they would check the calculators, since there were only three of us. I was disappointed that they didn't pick up on it, but then again, it's my fault too for not speaking up. They probably didn't even know the difference between a CAS and scientific calculator anyway.

You'd be how much they know, they are actually pretty smart.

Another thought that has come to my mind is that an incident report may have already been written up, and you don't even know about it.

[hobbitle]

Don't buy any of this "oh just let it go" bullshit. Most people who say it are probably just too chicken to do anything about it themselves.

This is sooooo not the point.

Being chicken and seeing the bigger picture are two completely different things.

If I wanted to be petty about something like that then I'd have no hesitation in saying something but what's the point, ESPECIALLY since the OP has *nothing* to actually back up the claim.  It's about the bigger picture.  And this PARTICULAR situation is like, 99% chance they weren't cheating anyway, so you just look like someone who is trying to find a fault in other people.  Which is a really crap look in the said 'real world'. 

[fdhgdzh]

You'd be how much they know, they are actually pretty smart.

Another thought that has come to my mind is that an incident report may have already been written up, and you don't even know about it.

That would be brilliant, but wouldn't they have said something so this person during the exam??