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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4740 on: February 11, 2016, 05:52:51 pm »
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Guys quick question please help out,

Guys if i have 250ml Of 0.1M standard solution of Na2CO3 in a volumetric flask, and i make four 20ml aliquots in conical flasks, what will the amount of sodium carbonate in mol be, present in each conical flask?
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4741 on: February 11, 2016, 06:03:21 pm »
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Guys quick question please help out,

Guys if i have 250ml Of 0.1M standard solution of Na2CO3 in a volumetric flask, and i make four 20ml aliquots in conical flasks, what will the amount of sodium carbonate in mol be, present in each conical flask?
n(Na2CO3) = cV = 0.02 * 0.1 (as concentration stays same)
therefore 0.002 mol Na2CO3 in each flask
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4742 on: February 11, 2016, 06:09:54 pm »
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n(Na2CO3) = cV = 0.02 * 0.1 (as concentration stays same)
therefore 0.002 mol Na2CO3 in each flask

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4743 on: February 11, 2016, 06:21:13 pm »
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You half the n(Al3+) to obtain the n(Al2(SO4)3) as two atoms of Al are required to make aluminium sulphate, in a sense.

It's probably easier to think if you have ten atoms of Al3+ floating around, you'd only have enough to make 5 particles of Al2(SO4)3

Ooh ok thanks for that!
Does that always apply to any equation? As I remember I could usually just multiply the mol by whatever ratio I needed to without regarding the amount of atoms, i.e. the analogy

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4744 on: February 13, 2016, 07:44:59 pm »
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The concentration of hydrogen peroxide-based bleach was determined by titration with 0.01980M potassium permanganate solution. 20.00mL of the peroxide solution was diluted to 250.0mL. A 20.00mL aliquot of the diluted solution was acidified and titrated with the potassium permanganate solution. An average titre of 19.12mL was required. What was the concentration of the hydrogen peroxide in the bleach?

How are we meant to know the products of the reactions to form a chemical equation? Or do we assume MnO4- ---->Mn2+

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4745 on: February 13, 2016, 09:23:29 pm »
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Ooh ok thanks for that!
Does that always apply to any equation? As I remember I could usually just multiply the mol by whatever ratio I needed to without regarding the amount of atoms, i.e. the analogy

You should use mol ratios with atoms if that's what you're choosing to work with. In this case, you decided to go by an atom route, so you must use the mol ratios of the atoms. Another thing you could've done is considered the overall equation:

Al2(SO4)3 + 6Cl- -----> 2AlCl3+3SO4

and used molecular mole ratios from that.

The concentration of hydrogen peroxide-based bleach was determined by titration with 0.01980M potassium permanganate solution. 20.00mL of the peroxide solution was diluted to 250.0mL. A 20.00mL aliquot of the diluted solution was acidified and titrated with the potassium permanganate solution. An average titre of 19.12mL was required. What was the concentration of the hydrogen peroxide in the bleach?

How are we meant to know the products of the reactions to form a chemical equation? Or do we assume MnO4- ---->Mn2+

This is actually a pretty complicated reaction, and I'd imagine that you would be told the equation in an exam. I'd imagine they wanted you to use the electrochemical series, but I can't find Mn^7+ or MnO_4^- on there, so you wouldn't have any way of knowing which is the stronger oxidant. If something like this happens again, though, you don't get many oxidants stronger than Mn^7+, and Mn (VII) ----> Mn(II) can be quite a safe assumption if you think it's a redox reaction (transition metals generally like to be in the 2+ oxidation state for various reasons, so you can usually safely assume that if they're reacting, they'll end up there - not a safe assumption past VCE, but for now...)

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4746 on: February 13, 2016, 09:39:47 pm »
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{you can usually safely assume that if they're reacting, they'll end up there - not a safe assumption past VCE, but for now...)

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4747 on: February 13, 2016, 11:31:45 pm »
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The concentration of hydrogen peroxide-based bleach was determined by titration with 0.01980M potassium permanganate solution. 20.00mL of the peroxide solution was diluted to 250.0mL. A 20.00mL aliquot of the diluted solution was acidified and titrated with the potassium permanganate solution. An average titre of 19.12mL was required. What was the concentration of the hydrogen peroxide in the bleach?

How are we meant to know the products of the reactions to form a chemical equation? Or do we assume MnO4- ---->Mn2+

Yeah just accept that.
Note: H2O2 is being oxidised to give oxygen gas here.

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4748 on: February 14, 2016, 11:55:28 am »
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How would you do this question ?

Many antacids fizz when dissolved in a glass of water.One such brand lists among its ingredients sodium hydrogen
carbonate and citric acid. Write an ionic equation for the reaction between HCO3- (aq) and H3O+ (aq) responsible for the ‘fizz’.

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4749 on: February 14, 2016, 01:11:37 pm »
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How would you do this question ?

Many antacids fizz when dissolved in a glass of water.One such brand lists among its ingredients sodium hydrogen
carbonate and citric acid. Write an ionic equation for the reaction between HCO3- (aq) and H3O+ (aq) responsible for the ‘fizz’.


One of these is an acid, the other a base. Identify which is which and then do a proton transfer.

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4750 on: February 14, 2016, 01:17:45 pm »
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If anyone can share some tips for VCE chemistry (units 1 and 2) or the fundamentals you're expected to know, that would be great :)

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4751 on: February 14, 2016, 01:30:45 pm »
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One of these is an acid, the other a base. Identify which is which and then do a proton transfer.

the answer says  HCO3- (aq) + H3O+ (aq) → CO2 (g) + 2H2O (l)

shouldnt it be HCO3- (aq) + H3O+ (aq) → H2CO3 (aq) + H2O (l)


how do they get this ?


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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4752 on: February 14, 2016, 01:36:14 pm »
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the answer says  HCO3- (aq) + H3O+ (aq) → CO2 (g) + 2H2O (l)

shouldnt it be HCO3- (aq) + H3O+ (aq) → H2CO3 (aq) + H2O (l)


how do they get this ?



The H2CO3 can undergo further reaction to H2O and CO2 - you see it all the time in soft drink, in fact. I'm guessing the book just prefers that reaction - probably not too bad an assumption to have carbonate break down into CO2 if you ever see it like that.

If anyone can share some tips for VCE chemistry (units 1 and 2) or the fundamentals you're expected to know, that would be great :)

For 1/2, they should assume nothing. Having said that, your school might assume you know some things, so it's worth asking your teacher to find out.

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4753 on: February 14, 2016, 03:38:18 pm »
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Are the answers to these correct? Thanks

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #4754 on: February 14, 2016, 04:04:31 pm »
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The H2CO3 can undergo further reaction to H2O and CO2 - you see it all the time in soft drink, in fact. I'm guessing the book just prefers that reaction - probably not too bad an assumption to have carbonate break down into CO2 if you ever see it like that.



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