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Re: VCE Biology Question Thread
« Reply #3255 on: October 08, 2014, 04:09:59 pm »
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Can someone betteer explain the difference in terms of structure and function of:
-alpha helices and beta-pleated chains?

i have "that alpha helices are more  flexible than beta-pleated sheets, so are involved more in regulatory proteins etc., whilst beta-pleated sheets are stronger and less flexible than alpha helices, so are a component of structural proteins."

Also, in terms of the actual physical difference in strucutres, is saying that alpha helices are helical in shape and beta pleated sheets are more like a layer in top of another ok?

thanks! :D
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Re: VCE Biology Question Thread
« Reply #3256 on: October 08, 2014, 06:21:04 pm »
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Is it just me, or are biology NEAP exams way way harder than all the other practice exams? Are people here getting similar, better or worse scores in the practice exams, compared to the previous exams from VTAC? I just got under 60% in two NEAP exams, lol...
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« Reply #3257 on: October 08, 2014, 06:21:36 pm »
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« Reply #3258 on: October 08, 2014, 06:32:33 pm »
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Is it just me, or are biology NEAP exams way way harder than all the other practice exams? Are people here getting similar, better or worse scores in the practice exams, compared to the previous exams from VTAC? I just got under 60% in two NEAP exams, lol...
I've definitely been getting higher marks for VCAA past exams than company-based exams.
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« Reply #3259 on: October 08, 2014, 06:58:39 pm »
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Is it just me, or are biology NEAP exams way way harder than all the other practice exams? Are people here getting similar, better or worse scores in the practice exams, compared to the previous exams from VTAC? I just got under 60% in two NEAP exams, lol...

NEAP are generally harder, Insight/engage generally easier, TSSM and QATS about the same I've found.

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Re: VCE Biology Question Thread
« Reply #3260 on: October 08, 2014, 09:21:48 pm »
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Can someone betteer explain the difference in terms of structure and function of:
-alpha helices and beta-pleated chains?

i have "that alpha helices are more  flexible than beta-pleated sheets, so are involved more in regulatory proteins etc., whilst beta-pleated sheets are stronger and less flexible than alpha helices, so are a component of structural proteins."

Also, in terms of the actual physical difference in strucutres, is saying that alpha helices are helical in shape and beta pleated sheets are more like a layer in top of another ok?

thanks! :D

and also, alpha helix takes up less space because it is an alpha helix, where as the beta pleated sheet, it takes up more space, cuz its a sheet. :)
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« Reply #3261 on: October 08, 2014, 09:27:30 pm »
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and also, alpha helix takes up less space because it is an alpha helix, where as the beta pleated sheet, it takes up more space, cuz its a sheet. :)

thanks! do we need to know exactly how these shapes form? (like how the hydrogen bonds interact to form the sheet or helix) and if so, does somebody mind explaining how please? :)

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« Reply #3262 on: October 08, 2014, 09:29:38 pm »
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thanks! do we need to know exactly how these shapes form? (like how the hydrogen bonds interact to form the sheet or helix) and if so, does somebody mind explaining how please? :)

uhh, no? Well, we know that hydrogen bonds hold the shape together. thats where i'm gonna leave it. :)
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Re: VCE Biology Question Thread
« Reply #3263 on: October 08, 2014, 09:33:53 pm »
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Is it just me, or are biology NEAP exams way way harder than all the other practice exams? Are people here getting similar, better or worse scores in the practice exams, compared to the previous exams from VTAC? I just got under 60% in two NEAP exams, lol...

Same! NEAP are actually ridiculous in comparison to VCAA exams.

thanks! do we need to know exactly how these shapes form? (like how the hydrogen bonds interact to form the sheet or helix) and if so, does somebody mind explaining how please? :)

You'll need to know that the hydrogen bonding occurs between the R variable groups of each amino acid in the polypeptide chain (secondary structure) ...I'm pretty sure, unless I'm confusing bio with chem  :P
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Re: VCE Biology Question Thread
« Reply #3264 on: October 08, 2014, 09:34:56 pm »
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thanks! do we need to know exactly how these shapes form? (like how the hydrogen bonds interact to form the sheet or helix) and if so, does somebody mind explaining how please? :)

Not that you need to actually know, but these structures are mediated by hydrogen bonding between backbone structures (N-H or C=O). Whether they form an alpha helix or a beta pleated sheet depends on the angles that the backbone makes, but let's not worry about those!
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Re: VCE Biology Question Thread
« Reply #3265 on: October 08, 2014, 09:37:53 pm »
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Does anyone know the biotech method/appliance when a laser beam is used to detect nucleotides?
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« Reply #3266 on: October 08, 2014, 09:43:50 pm »
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Does anyone know the biotech method/appliance when a laser beam is used to detect nucleotides?
Is this from a NEAP exam by any chance? I think I remember doing a similar question
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« Reply #3267 on: October 08, 2014, 09:46:29 pm »
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Does anyone know the biotech method/appliance when a laser beam is used to detect nucleotides?

isn't the method dna sequencing (like using dideoxyribose nucleotides)?

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« Reply #3268 on: October 08, 2014, 11:39:39 pm »
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Is this from a NEAP exam by any chance? I think I remember doing a similar question
Noooo from a past VCAA exam actually.

isn't the method dna sequencing (like using dideoxyribose nucleotides)?
The image attached is the method... no idea :/
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« Reply #3269 on: October 08, 2014, 11:59:49 pm »
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Noooo from a past VCAA exam actually.
The image attached is the method... no idea :/

You don't need to understand the technique, just the basic principles of DNA to be able to answer this question. IT was actually relatively well answer.
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