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« Reply #5880 on: September 11, 2015, 07:45:27 pm »
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I don't get how there can be three alleles for a certain gene. Does this mean that each individual just has two of these alleles? And could one allele be dominant to the other allele, but recessive to another one? So confusing :(
Yep , this is known as multiple alleles. Classic eg- blood groups, in blood groups two are codominant and one is recessive. Another way it could happen is where one is  dominant over another , which is dominant over another( eg. A could be dominant over a , and a could be dominant over a' )
 But as you said individual will only have two of the alleles.

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« Reply #5881 on: September 11, 2015, 07:49:52 pm »
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Okay so how will you represent multiple alleles using symbols? Also isn't blood groups an example of multiple alleles with codominance? Does dominant and recessive multiple alleles exist?

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« Reply #5882 on: September 11, 2015, 07:52:39 pm »
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For question 6bii. I said the hybrid of the raddish and cabbage was not fertile because they were of different plant species, and hence their offspring was not viable (unable to produce offspring). Would this suffice? Also, is it true that the reason why the offspring is not viable is because the chromosomes from the parents are not homologous pairs, and hence during meiosis, they cannot all line up and divide? If this is the case, why though? Just because there are no homologous pairs, why cant the offspring reproduce?
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« Reply #5883 on: September 11, 2015, 10:46:33 pm »
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For question 6bii. I said the hybrid of the raddish and cabbage was not fertile because they were of different plant species, and hence their offspring was not viable (unable to produce offspring). Would this suffice? Also, is it true that the reason why the offspring is not viable is because the chromosomes from the parents are not homologous pairs, and hence during meiosis, they cannot all line up and divide? If this is the case, why though? Just because there are no homologous pairs, why cant the offspring reproduce?

You're explanation is correct. The offspring are sterile as homologous pairs can't form. This exact question was on my SAC. The offspring are sterile as viable gametes will not be produced

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« Reply #5884 on: September 12, 2015, 04:34:40 pm »
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A few questions...
1.whats the difference between clonal selection and clonal expansion?
2. With the r group of an amino acid, is that the bit which is attached to the trna?
3. Do bacteria have alleles?
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« Reply #5885 on: September 12, 2015, 04:45:41 pm »
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A few questions...
1.whats the difference between clonal selection and clonal expansion?
2. With the r group of an amino acid, is that the bit which is attached to the trna?
3. Do bacteria have alleles?
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1. There is practically no difference. Clonal selection refers to the fact that an antigen will bind and engage only specific cells, whereas clonal expansion describes the proliferation of specific cells because they've been bound by the antigen.
Incidentally, this was an Australian discovery. Macfarlane Burnet, who studied at UniMelb and before then Geelong College, was the guy who pioneered the theory of clonal selection/expansion and won a Nobel prize.

2. You don't need to know. It's not a bad way of thinking about it though, truth be told.

3. Yes. Alleles are just forms of a particular gene. Bacterial genes can vary across population so of course those genes are referred to as alleles.
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« Reply #5886 on: September 12, 2015, 05:51:30 pm »
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Must we know:

1. The mode of Viral infection? Like some viruses attach to the cell membrane and inject their viral nucleic acid, and some are engulfed by the host cell itself. The viral nucleic acid then alters the normal DNA to reproduce more viral products and reassembles these into new viral particles. But should we know 'how' the viral DNA interrupts the normal DNA of the cell? Is it sufficient enough to just say that viral DNA alters normal functioning DNA of the host cell to produce more protein coats and viral DNA?

2. Why do some viruses in human cells get engulfed, but in bacterial cells just attach to the membrane? Is it because bacterial cells there is a rigid cell wall which may prevent/make it difficult for the virus particle to enter the cell, hence it just injects the viral nucleic acid in there? Whereas in humans, there is a lack of cell wall. If this is the case, what about plant cells? How do viruses infect plant cells, by directly entering the host cell or just injecting the viral nucleic acid in it?

3. "Because viruses enter host cells, it is difficult to inhibit the reproduction of a virus without interfeering with the metabolism of the host cell". This is true, however, would it not be effective in designing drugs to prevent the entry of viruses into host cells? For example, inhibiting the receptors which attach the virus with the membrane of the host cell?

4. I know bacterial cells have ribosomes and hence are responsible for the production of new protein components of new viruses, but where does the energy of bacterial cells come from? In other words, how do bacterial cells obtain their energy if they lack mitochondrion and chloroplast (in the case of photosynthetic bacterias)

5. Viroids are naked RNA molecules. So what? What makes them infectious pathogens to plants? Also is the key difference between a virus and viroid: viruses have protein coats and are composed of either DNA or RNA, whereas viroids lack a protein coat and are only RNA molecules?

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« Reply #5887 on: September 12, 2015, 06:29:12 pm »
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Has anyone done insight 2011 unit 4. Was really tough.

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« Reply #5888 on: September 12, 2015, 10:25:32 pm »
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For those who have finished their evolution sac how was it is their anything to look out for? tips?

My sac is on Variation(population genetics), Evolution/Evidence for evolution & Human Evolution.

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« Reply #5889 on: September 12, 2015, 10:39:03 pm »
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For those who have finished their evolution sac how was it is their anything to look out for? tips?

My sac is on Variation(population genetics), Evolution/Evidence for evolution & Human Evolution.

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Very likely there will be a 3 mark question on natural selection for a given situation (use VSSRIG).

Human evolution. Know characteristics for Bipedalism and what seperates Hominids from other primates. Make sure to understand Phylogentic trees.

Allopatric speciation. Always be specific. Give an example of a geographical barrier

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« Reply #5890 on: September 12, 2015, 10:52:02 pm »
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For those who have finished their evolution sac how was it is their anything to look out for? tips?

My sac is on Variation(population genetics), Evolution/Evidence for evolution & Human Evolution.

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Natural selection, biological, cultural and technological evolution that led to the evolution of humans and their advances over other species. Gene technologies (gene therapy, selective breeding) and artificial insemination.
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« Reply #5891 on: September 13, 2015, 01:53:23 pm »
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Must we know:

1. The mode of Viral infection? Like some viruses attach to the cell membrane and inject their viral nucleic acid, and some are engulfed by the host cell itself. The viral nucleic acid then alters the normal DNA to reproduce more viral products and reassembles these into new viral particles. But should we know 'how' the viral DNA interrupts the normal DNA of the cell? Is it sufficient enough to just say that viral DNA alters normal functioning DNA of the host cell to produce more protein coats and viral DNA?

2. Why do some viruses in human cells get engulfed, but in bacterial cells just attach to the membrane? Is it because bacterial cells there is a rigid cell wall which may prevent/make it difficult for the virus particle to enter the cell, hence it just injects the viral nucleic acid in there? Whereas in humans, there is a lack of cell wall. If this is the case, what about plant cells? How do viruses infect plant cells, by directly entering the host cell or just injecting the viral nucleic acid in it?

3. "Because viruses enter host cells, it is difficult to inhibit the reproduction of a virus without interfeering with the metabolism of the host cell". This is true, however, would it not be effective in designing drugs to prevent the entry of viruses into host cells? For example, inhibiting the receptors which attach the virus with the membrane of the host cell?

4. I know bacterial cells have ribosomes and hence are responsible for the production of new protein components of new viruses, but where does the energy of bacterial cells come from? In other words, how do bacterial cells obtain their energy if they lack mitochondrion and chloroplast (in the case of photosynthetic bacterias)

5. Viroids are naked RNA molecules. So what? What makes them infectious pathogens to plants? Also is the key difference between a virus and viroid: viruses have protein coats and are composed of either DNA or RNA, whereas viroids lack a protein coat and are only RNA molecules?

Thank you .

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« Reply #5892 on: September 13, 2015, 03:45:41 pm »
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1. That's correct as I'm aware of
2. Yes, it can happen by both methods. Think it depends on the structure of the virus. HIV virus will use endocytosis as it has membrane but bacterophages will inject the viral DNA
3. Yes, drugs are designed to inhibit enzymes that allow viruses to enter cells
4. Most bacteria take in organic compounds from their surroundings and break them down
5. Not sure how they are infectious but that is the difference between viroids and viruses

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« Reply #5893 on: September 13, 2015, 04:05:58 pm »
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Must we know:

1. The mode of Viral infection? Like some viruses attach to the cell membrane and inject their viral nucleic acid, and some are engulfed by the host cell itself. The viral nucleic acid then alters the normal DNA to reproduce more viral products and reassembles these into new viral particles. But should we know 'how' the viral DNA interrupts the normal DNA of the cell? Is it sufficient enough to just say that viral DNA alters normal functioning DNA of the host cell to produce more protein coats and viral DNA?

2. Why do some viruses in human cells get engulfed, but in bacterial cells just attach to the membrane? Is it because bacterial cells there is a rigid cell wall which may prevent/make it difficult for the virus particle to enter the cell, hence it just injects the viral nucleic acid in there? Whereas in humans, there is a lack of cell wall. If this is the case, what about plant cells? How do viruses infect plant cells, by directly entering the host cell or just injecting the viral nucleic acid in it?

3. "Because viruses enter host cells, it is difficult to inhibit the reproduction of a virus without interfeering with the metabolism of the host cell". This is true, however, would it not be effective in designing drugs to prevent the entry of viruses into host cells? For example, inhibiting the receptors which attach the virus with the membrane of the host cell?

4. I know bacterial cells have ribosomes and hence are responsible for the production of new protein components of new viruses, but where does the energy of bacterial cells come from? In other words, how do bacterial cells obtain their energy if they lack mitochondrion and chloroplast (in the case of photosynthetic bacterias)

5. Viroids are naked RNA molecules. So what? What makes them infectious pathogens to plants? Also is the key difference between a virus and viroid: viruses have protein coats and are composed of either DNA or RNA, whereas viroids lack a protein coat and are only RNA molecules?

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1. As far as what you need to know, this is fine, except for the idea of "altering the normal DNA". This is not really what viruses do. Viruses can have different genomes. They could be ssDNA, dsDNA, ssRNA or dsRNA. How a virus produces new copies of itself completely depends on its genome. For those with ssRNA genomes, for instance, they can be directly transcribed by ribosomes (how they genome itself is replicated is another matter, but I won't go into that). The best way to approach it is to say this: viruses hijack the host cell machinery to replicate themselves. That is the VCE-level understanding required, which is a pain because it's so much more interesting than that!

2. That could be an explanation of it, but I suspect it's probably more complicated than that. Pretty sure viruses can enter plant cells. It could just be that bacteriophage have evolved a more efficient way of infecting cells that just hasn't evolved in eukaryotic viruses yet, although I think there are actually some eukaryotic viruses that insert their genomes this way...

3. The statement is actually not true. Inhibiting viral reproduction is tricky, but not impossible. Many viruses have to produce enzymes to get their genomes in a position to be replicated by the host machinery. Targetting these enzymes is a common theme in the rational design of anti-viral drugs. For instance, a drug called sofosbuvir has recently reached the market as a treatment for HepC virus. It targets a viral enzyme used in the replication of the viral genome. Most of the HIV antivirals target enzymes produced by HIV, namely reverse transcriptase, integrase and a protease.
You are completely right in saying, however, that targeting viral entry is a very good way of dealing with viruses. Some antivirals may actually prevent viruses from exiting the cell. Zanamivir is an influenza anti-viral that blocks an enzyme that allows viruses to exit cells.

4. Biology24123 is completely right on this. Most bacteria just take compounds from the environment and use those. It should be noted, however, that bacteria have really diverse metabolic strategies. Some will even use iron to produce energy. It should also be said that mitochondria and plastids are actually derived from bacteria. In the case of the former, alpha-purple bacteria were respiring before mitochondria, and in the latter cyanobacteria were photosynthesising before then. Lastly, I would also point out that bacteria can produce energy via glycolysis...

5. You've got the difference between the two right. The reason that viroids are infectious is because they can propagate disease between different organisms. The RNA jumps from cell to cell and gets replicated. IN the process, it causes disease.
It's a pity that they've called them viroids, because it makes it hard to remember. The reason they're called this, of course, is because they are essentially viruses without the virus.
In fact, a good way to think about it is to think of bacteriophage. What actually infects the cell? Only the RNA/DNA genome. The capsid just floats off.
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« Reply #5894 on: September 13, 2015, 04:25:58 pm »
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Is divergent and branching evolution practically the same thing?