Gym thread (2014)

[CH3ezEC4KE]

Hey guys quick question - is it better to have breakfast before or after a morning run? Google has given me mixed responses though I normally have my breakfast after.

Hey blondie21, it really depends on how hard you run and how long you run. I used to eat a bit before a run but was getting digestive issues through my long run. Now I do a 20km+ long run each week without eating before and I'm mostly fine. However if you are doing a race it is better to eat something but try to have it around an hour before the event. My doctor has run marathons including Boston and she told me not eating before a run is probablybetterfor most people

[abeybaby]

Sorry it took me soooooo long to reply Jello, I've been incredibly busy recently.

To say workout time is stereotypical to a sport is just wrong, because programming isn’t stereotypical to a sport and I believe this is where you’re making a mistake.

Hmmm, interesting. Okay, to me, the orthodox way to do it would have boybuilding being intense and quick, and powerlifting being a bit slower with more rest.

I feel this where the disagreement lies, that you have adopted an incorrect view of what powerlifting is. I’ll post a couple of videos which may clarify the problem, these videos are from elite level powerlifters some of whom were once bodybuilders.

Those videos were interesting. I didn't know that powerlifters sometimes (regularly?) went for higher reps.

Here I disagree again, perhaps if you outline what you would consider a great start for an aspiring bodybuilder and I did the same we could discuss this more thoroughly. I do however think the resultant programs would be surprisingly similar.

If i got to start again, and rewrite my beginning, I would focus on bench, squats, deads and OHP, but also add in lots and lots of other exercises, such as:
Back: Lat pulldowns/pull ups, DB rows, seated rows

Chest :DB incline press, cable flyes/presses, machine flye

Arms: Straight bar triceps extensions, BB bicep curls,

Shoulders: side raises, front/rear raises

Legs: lunges, leg press, leg extensions/curls.

[jello7]

Sorry it took me soooooo long to reply Jello, I've been incredibly busy recently.
Hmmm, interesting. Okay, to me, the orthodox way to do it would have boybuilding being intense and quick, and powerlifting being a bit slower with more rest.
Those videos were interesting. I didn't know that powerlifters sometimes (regularly?) went for higher reps.

No, most of the powerlifters I know of would devote (as a guess) 90% of their time to reps at or above 8 with some at or above 20.

If i got to start again, and rewrite my beginning, I would focus on bench, squats, deads and OHP, but also add in lots and lots of other exercises, such as:
Back: Lat pulldowns/pull ups, DB rows, seated rows

Chest :DB incline press, cable flyes/presses, machine flye

Arms: Straight bar triceps extensions, BB bicep curls,

Shoulders: side raises, front/rear raises

Legs: lunges, leg press, leg extensions/curls.

My approach for a beginner would be very similar, perhaps with absence to the second 'lots'.

[Robert243]

Guys im turning 14, turning 15 on the 18th , im wondering does lifting heavy weights at my age , stop me from growing .

[grannysmith]

Guys im turning 14, turning 15 on the 18th , im wondering does lifting heavy weights at my age , stop me from growing .

Disclaimer: I don't even lift but lel

Most probably, it won't. If it did, it would most likely be a result of a combination of injury and/or insufficient nutrition.
So just make sure you're using correct technique, and eating a balanced diet

[BigAl]

Guys im turning 14, turning 15 on the 18th , im wondering does lifting heavy weights at my age , stop me from growing .

You could easily injure yourself. I remember I was preparing myself for military highschool in my home country. I had to run 400m in 80 seconds and also do lots of push ups in a limited time. After the first week of training, I could barely walk. I was 14 at that time. You need to focus on your growth now. Gain some weight.

[grannysmith]

Haha I think he wants to gain weight in the form of muscle :p

[Only Cheating Yourself]

Isn't bodybuilding the whole reason guys go to the gym? I mean, let's be realistic: you don't hear many guys saying "I go to the gym because I want to be healthy and reduce my risk of osteoporosis". They all sign up with the aim of: "I want to look attractive and have big muscles". This is particularly the case for guys in the 16-30 age group. They all just want to bulk up, grow big biceps, shoulder muscles, chest muscles, a 6-pack etc... don't they?

No, some do some don't.  I like working hard, some people hate pushing their body to the edge while others don't.  You don't hear people say I'm studying because i love studying, they study because they want a good job.  See what i did there?

[brenden]

I think that's what most people do BA, just split their body parts. If I ever did regular bodybuilding type stuff, protein or not, if I worked a muscle, that muscle better be sore for a good five days lol. There's nothing wrong with soreness (in fact, you want to be sore, it means you've stressed your muscles enough).

Taking WPC will probably assist with the soreness though.

[hobbitle]

As a side note... I find it so bizarre all the wonderful things that science/medicine has discovered and allowed us to do over the last decades, yet there is still no solid evidence for ANYTHING that legitimately relieves DOMS (muscle soreness after exercise).  Some people have theories but literally nothing has been discovered to actually work.

[brenden]

As a side note... I find it so bizarre all the wonderful things that science/medicine has discovered and allowed us to do over the last decades, yet there is still no solid evidence for ANYTHING that legitimately relieves DOMS (muscle soreness after exercise).  Some people have theories but literally nothing has been discovered to actually work.

More exercise works 80% of the time all the time.

[Only Cheating Yourself]

As a side note... I find it so bizarre all the wonderful things that science/medicine has discovered and allowed us to do over the last decades, yet there is still no solid evidence for ANYTHING that legitimately relieves DOMS (muscle soreness after exercise).  Some people have theories but literally nothing has been discovered to actually work.

I doubt there ever ail, thats the whole point of working out, you tear new tissue…. Thats how you grow muscle therefore suppose to feel sore, it's like saying you strained your hamstring… Your hamstring will be sore for a week or so but you can help aid the recovery by massaging the muscle etc. 

[abeybaby]

As a side note... I find it so bizarre all the wonderful things that science/medicine has discovered and allowed us to do over the last decades, yet there is still no solid evidence for ANYTHING that legitimately relieves DOMS (muscle soreness after exercise).  Some people have theories but literally nothing has been discovered to actually work.

Glutamine+BCAAs

[Dedicated]

Foam rolling can help, I personally don't do it though but might implement it soon. I think its also something the body gets use to as now I squat 5-6 times a week and my legs don't get sore. Also for the cheapest supplements venom protein is the best http://venomprotein.com.au/catalog/index.php

[brenden]

Out of interest... how do your triceps feel at the moment?