My health question thread 2014

[Only Cheating Yourself]

What are the cost of disease?  What exactly does direct,indirect and tangible costs mean?  I'm kind of confused…  So direct costs are ones going to the disease, i.e the diagnose and treatment while indirect costs are going to things that people are unable to do as they are suffering from ill health, and intangible costs are like things pain etc?  Could someone elaborate

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What are the cost of disease?  What exactly does direct,indirect and tangible costs mean?  I'm kind of confused…  So direct costs are ones going to the disease, i.e the diagnose and treatment while indirect costs are going to things that people are unable to do as they are suffering from ill health, and intangible costs are like things pain etc?  Could someone elaborate

For this section you only need to know

direct, indirect and intangible costs to individuals and communities of NHPAs

Direct costs are those associated with preventing the disease or condition and providing health services to people suffering from it.

Direct costs to the individual are those paid for by the ill person or their family.

Direct costs to the community are the costs associated with implementing health promotion strategies and diagnosing and treating the condition, but which are paid for by the community. These costs are generally paid for through Medicare, the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and/or private health insurance providers.


Indirect costs are not directly related to the diagnosis or treatment of the disease, but do occur as a result of the person having the disease.

Intangible costs are Things that cannot be measured physically or with a monetary measure, such as pain and suffering


You just need to provide examples of these eg

name an intangible cost of a person having obesity (individual)

They may have low self confidence and lack of self esteem due to poor body image.

[Rod]

I was going to give you a detailed answer but fish and chips had already covered it really well. I'll give you some examples so you understand it a bit more.

Okay; so my grand father had a stroke and got multiple sclerosis.

The direct costs to him;
 several medical costs during hospitalization and medicine

Direct costs to community:
He stopped working, so they community loses productivity

Indirect cost to him:
He had to hire a personal carer to look after him when we couldn't

Indirect cost to community:
They lose money when funding him

Intangible cost to him:
He would feel depressed and frustrated considering he can no longer communicate with us

Hope that helps,

Rod

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I was going to give you a detailed answer but fish and chips had already covered it really well. I'll give you some examples so you understand it a bit more.

Okay; so my grand father had a stroke and got multiple sclerosis.

The direct costs to him;
 several medical costs during hospitalization and medicine

Direct costs to community:
He stopped working, so they community loses productivity

Indirect cost to him:
He had to hire a personal carer to look after him when we couldn't

Indirect cost to community:
They lose money when funding him

Intangible cost to him:
He would feel depressed and frustrated considering he can no longer communicate with us

Hope that helps,

Rod

Good examples
Just remember to be specific eg with the first eg you could say, cost of medications to assist with pain or the ms

[Only Cheating Yourself]

For this section you only need to know

direct, indirect and intangible costs to individuals and communities of NHPAs

Direct costs are those associated with preventing the disease or condition and providing health services to people suffering from it.

Direct costs to the individual are those paid for by the ill person or their family.

Direct costs to the community are the costs associated with implementing health promotion strategies and diagnosing and treating the condition, but which are paid for by the community. These costs are generally paid for through Medicare, the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and/or private health insurance providers.


Indirect costs are not directly related to the diagnosis or treatment of the disease, but do occur as a result of the person having the disease.

Intangible costs are Things that cannot be measured physically or with a monetary measure, such as pain and suffering


You just need to provide examples of these eg

name an intangible cost of a person having obesity (individual)

They may have low self confidence and lack of self esteem due to poor body image.

Thanks, so tangible cost is directly covering the condition/disease e.g ambulance cover specialist cover, mri cover etc.  While indirect cover is as you said the person is unable to do the things they once did for e.g a person suffering from a road accident and has multiply broken bones etc is unable to mow the lines therefore the direct costs go towards hiring a law mower, and intangible cost is when you can't put a price on it?  Is this always how a person feels?  e.g the person may suffer health problems such as stress and depression but you can put a price on this, i mean the person can see a professional about their problem?

I was going to give you a detailed answer but fish and chips had already covered it really well. I'll give you some examples so you understand it a bit more.

Okay; so my grand father had a stroke and got multiple sclerosis.

The direct costs to him;
 several medical costs during hospitalization and medicine

Direct costs to community:
He stopped working, so they community loses productivity

Indirect cost to him:
He had to hire a personal carer to look after him when we couldn't

Indirect cost to community:
They lose money when funding him

Intangible cost to him:
He would feel depressed and frustrated considering he can no longer communicate with us

Hope that helps,

Rod

Thanks when did you learn this?

[Rod]

Good examples
Just remember to be specific eg with the first eg you could say, cost of medications to assist with pain or the ms

Yes thank you . Will do next time! Fishandchips,
have you completed HHD 3/4 or are you doing it this year? Was just wondering, you seem to know of a lot of the course .

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Thanks, so tangible cost is directly covering the condition/disease e.g ambulance cover specialist cover, mri cover etc.  While indirect cover is as you said the person is unable to do the things they once did for e.g a person suffering from a road accident and has multiply broken bones etc is unable to mow the lines therefore the direct costs go towards hiring a law mower, and intangible cost is when you can't put a price on it?  Is this always how a person feels?  e.g the person may suffer health problems such as stress and depression but you can put a price on this, i mean the person can see a professional about their problem?

Intangible costs also include loss of participation in social activities, such as coaching the local netball team or volunteering.

Yes thank you . Will do next time! Fishandchips,
have you completed HHD 3/4 or are you doing it this year? Was just wondering, you seem to know of a lot of the course .

I completed it last year

[Only Cheating Yourself]

Hi, for NHPA what should i know?  Do i need to all of them?

[Smiley_]

Hi, for NHPA what should i know?  Do i need to all of them?

You need to know
the National Health Priority Areas (NHPAs) including:
– key features and reasons for selection of each NHPA
– determinants that act as risk factors
– direct, indirect and intangible costs to individuals and communities of NHPAs
– one health promotion program relevant to each NHPA

And yes you do need to know all of them

[The Brightest Witch]

Yep! And it may seem really obvious, but so many people don't realise until it's too late and end up doing heaps of extra unnecessary work, so I'll say it:

A program for each NHPA doesn't mean you gotta memorise 9 programs - there are programs that are relevant to more than 1 NHPA, so double and triple some of them up and you'll cut down your workload

E.g. I used "Swap It, Don't Stop It" for obesity, and every NHPA that obesity is a risk factor for. I don't know what I'd do if it wasn't for "Swap It, Don't Stop It". I like saying "Swap It, Don't Stop It". (And then I couldn't use it for the exam 'cause it was Asthma, so I was sad, but at the same time, I was a little relieved, since it meant I didn't have to explain "Swap It, Don't Stop It" for the millionth time)

[The Brightest Witch]

And it's not just that - the basic reasons for selection of every NHPA are pretty much the same, and the different costs also double up for heaps of them.

Also, why does everyone seem to be making their own personal HHD Questions Thread? :/

[Only Cheating Yourself]

Thanks guys, does anyone have sacs that they can email me that you guys did last year?

[Only Cheating Yourself]

Hey guys, i need advice on revising etc, should i stay with the schools pace?

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Hey

I found that this is a good way to approach the content
When starting a chapter or section, I found it helpful to go to the question pages and read the questions, as this will help you read more efficiently.
Then go to the section you are learning about and read this more than once,  I know that reading is a passive method of studying but for health it is necessary and reading the content a few times allows your brain to come to terms with the necessary information and to make sense of all the statistics that are interesting but not necessary.
After this completing questions is the most important thing and you should aim to do as many as possible.
This work will help you understand the many definitions that Health has, so step is to then put the definitions and other key terms onto cue cards (or how ever you best learn  ) then make sure you know these of by heart.
Then when you know the content, I recommend watching clips on youtube or follow the links from your textbook and watch these. This will help you when it comes time to suggest examples and come up with your own ideas.



Re staying with schools pace do what ever feels best for you

[Only Cheating Yourself]

Are there only 4 health indicators that are used to measure the health status of populations?  They're mortality, morbidity, life expectancy and burden of disease?  So exactly what a unit/measure?  For e.g life expectancy the unit/measure is health adjusted life years, so does this mean HALE takes into account life expectancy data?  Kind of confused here.

Thanks.