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Problem Solving Help
« on: January 31, 2014, 08:45:02 pm »
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One alloy of iron contains 52% iron and another contains 36% iron.

How many tonnes of each alloy should be used to make 200 tonnes of 40% iron alloy?

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Re: Problem Solving Help
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 09:15:38 pm »
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So one way in which you could work this out is through simultaneous equations.
If we label both irons as 'x' & 'y' then we know that for one equation that it has to be:

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X + Y = 200 (X & Y are the weights of the iron and the tonnes of each alloy will add up to 200 tonnes).

Now we also know that each alloy is respectively 52% and 36% which can be expressed as
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0.52x & 0.36y

Because of that, we also know that it must all have a 40% iron alloy so then it would look like:

0.52x + 0.36y = 0.40Z

And luckily we know what 'z' is (which is 200 tonnes) so our two simultaneous equations are:

X+Y = 200 (1)
0.52x + 0.36y = 80 (2)
I think from there you could solve it all out (probably best if you made equation (2) into whole numbers rather than with decimals :) )

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Re: Problem Solving Help
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2014, 07:11:57 am »
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Great thanks!

Also I'm having difficulty with this one
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A car leaves Melbourne at 8am travelling at a constant speed of 80km/h.
It is followed at 10am by another car travelling on the same road at a constant speed of 110km/h.
At what time will the second car overtake the first?

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Re: Problem Solving Help
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 09:54:08 am »
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Draw a velocity-time graph and then find the t coordinate at which the area under each curve is identical. Note that the area represents distance travelled.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2014, 10:51:29 am »
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This one was a bit more trickier for me but I 'think' I've got the answer!

So Let's say Car 1 = 8am and Car 2 is 10am.

Car 1 leaves at 8am and by 10am it is already:
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160km away from Car 2 when it starts
Since Car 2 is playing catch up, we can just use this to find how much time it takes for Car 2 to catch up to Car 1:

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Distance travelled by Car 2 - Distance travelled by Car 1 = 160km
This can be substituted for this equation:
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110t - 80t = 160, where 't' is equal to time.

From here we can work out how much time it takes for Car 2 to overtake Car 1!

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30t = 160

= 5.333 hours (same as 5 and one-third)

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If you want to convert from hours to minutes then simply multiply the final answer by 60 to get it into minutes
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which happens to be 320 minutes

And remember to state your answer since it's a worded question rather than leaving it as 't' = ....

SO:
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320 minutes after 10am is 3:20pm (if I'm not mistaken) so that means that the second car will overtake the first one after 3:20pm.



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Re: Problem Solving Help
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2014, 11:41:26 am »
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A car leaves Melbourne at 8am travelling at a constant speed of 80km/h.
It is followed at 10am by another car travelling on the same road at a constant speed of 110km/h.
At what time will the second car overtake the first?
Let t=amount of hours after 8am.

The first car would have travelled the distance 80t, which is 80km/h multiplied by how many hours it has been travelling for.

The second car would have travelled the distance 110(t-2), which is 110km/hour multiplied by how many hours it has been travelling for minus 2 hours (this is because the second car started 2 hours after the first car).

Equate the two expressions (we want the distance to be the same):









That is, 22/3 hours after 8am, the two cars would be at the same point. 22/3 hours after 8am is 3:20pm.
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Re: Problem Solving Help
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2014, 02:18:18 pm »
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Thanks all

Yep, the correct answer is 3:20pm!

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Re: Problem Solving Help
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2014, 03:18:01 pm »
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One alloy of iron contains 52% iron and another contains 36% iron.

How many tonnes of each alloy should be used to make 200 tonnes of 40% iron alloy?

I'd usually start off making a table like this to make sure I don't make a mistake. It's almost exactly the same as Indefatigable Lover's method but doesn't include the variable y that isn't needed. Hence, you don't need to solve simultaneous equations at the end and can probably do the final steps by hand :)


       
       
Both these quantities should add up to 200 tonnes of the 40% iron alloy. So:

Hence, .

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2014, 06:07:01 pm »
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Thanks

Would you be able to tell me what method I should use to solve this problem
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Determine all the values for k so that the quadratic expression x^2+kx-19 can be factorised using intergers.

I've seen these before but I haven't been taught how to complete.
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Re: Problem Solving Help
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 06:20:15 pm »
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Determine all the values for k so that the quadratic expression x^2+kx-19 can be factorised using intergers.

I've seen these before but I haven't been taught how to complete.
Thanks

Hint: Use the discriminant (b2-4ac).

Otherwise, notice the middle term can be expressed as a product of the coefficient of a and c.  In this case it's 1 and 19.
So k can be either 1-19=-18 or 19-1=18.
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Re: Problem Solving Help
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 08:06:32 pm »
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Aweomse, using the discriminent makes it easier
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2014, 08:08:52 pm »
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Aweomse, using the discriminent makes it easier
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Haha, yeah that's what most use. The other method is slightly quicker though but dw about it, I guess.

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2014, 08:13:36 pm »
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I get that way as well, but is it safer to use the discriminent? 

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2014, 08:25:40 pm »
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I get that way as well, but is it safer to use the discriminent?

Well tbh it's using the discriminate is a longer way that happens to be more laborious. With complexity comes the chance to make a mistake. I'd stick with the second method to be 'safe', but both are fine.