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Fail rate
« on: April 17, 2014, 05:12:03 pm »
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Hi guys, are we able to find out the fail rates for the subjects?

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Re: Fail rate
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 05:15:51 pm »
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I'm interested in why this information matters so much to students? Sorry I can't help you though.
Sometimes lecturers have given stats on the subject at the start of the course but not always.
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Re: Fail rate
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 09:57:07 pm »
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If you're worried about the fail rate (enough to seek this info) you generally don't really have to worry about failing...trust me.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2014, 05:41:25 pm »
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If you're worried about the fail rate (enough to seek this info) you generally don't really have to worry about failing...trust me.
Unless it's Chem 2. I know so many people that spent too much time worrying about the obscene Chem 2 fail rate and not enough time studying...
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2014, 06:58:22 pm »
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But it's not even that obscene when you consider that the typical fail rate for most Sci subs is like around 20%.
So like, 33% for Chem 2 or whatever they say it is seems ridiculous but it's only a moderate increase.

I feel like I have answered OPs question now rather than just making some annoying witty remark, darn.
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Re: Fail rate
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2014, 08:44:57 pm »
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But it's not even that obscene when you consider that the typical fail rate for most Sci subs is like around 20%.
So like, 33% for Chem 2 or whatever they say it is seems ridiculous but it's only a moderate increase.

I feel like I have answered OPs question now rather than just making some annoying witty remark, darn.
Yeah 33% really isn't that bad, I'd heard it was much worse. All the hype around it probably inflates the numbers from story to story...
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Re: Fail rate
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2014, 09:41:43 pm »
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A prac demonstrator in Chem 2 told a student that the "50% fail rate" story was "complete bullshit", and that only something over 20% of students usually fail, but nothing close to 50%. It's way less than some of the first year maths subjects last year, I'd be more worried about them personally :v >50% of people failing Calculus 2 in Semester One was crazy, I'm glad I didn't take it.

To address the OP, if you just study hard, you're not going to fail :) Easy peasy (well, not really, but straightforward)!
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 12:41:30 am »
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Wtf where did you hear this????

It's true. It happened when they stopped the MST component of calculus 2. I think both students and lecturers didn't quite realise how dramatic effect getting rid of the MST would have on the pass/fail rate. The following semester was better (when I took it) because the lecturers were on our backs more.
Literally half my tute was repeating and two guys were on their third attempt.
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Re: Fail rate
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 12:46:34 am »
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It's true. It happened when they stopped the MST component of calculus 2. I think both students and lecturers didn't quite realise how dramatic effect getting rid of the MST would have on the pass/fail rate. The following semester was better (when I took it) because the lecturers were on our backs more.
Literally half my tute was repeating and two guys were on their third attempt.

It definitely doesn't help that the exam was 80% of the total mark. And sem 2's exam was quite the killer!
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Re: Fail rate
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2014, 12:58:27 am »
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First year maths in general has a really weirdly high failure rate, especially the two calculus subjects. You'd think they might consider restructuring the subject to motivate students more and/or make it more straightforward. Even Calculus 1's exam was really, really hard in comparison to the assignments/tutorial questions/problem book.
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Re: Fail rate
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2014, 01:08:49 am »
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One of the coords told me that if they get a fail rate over 20, they get really pissy with the coordinator and any fail rate over 15 is too high.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2014, 01:11:43 am »
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Meanwhile, maths at RMIT is a joke. The exams are never worth more than 50% of the overall mark, and one subject doesn't even have an exam or tests. It's all just assignments and weekly labwork.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2014, 01:40:50 am »
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Yeah but it's RMIT so what were we/you expecting?
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2014, 01:48:32 am »
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Re: Fail rate
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2014, 01:57:46 am »
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