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Re: Which science?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2014, 08:27:51 pm »
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Not too sure... if that were to be the case then what happens to the Doctor of Dental Surgery course? Pretty sure doing a Bachelor of Oral Health doesn't permit you to operate on a patient (or does it)? >.<

A quick google tells me that without the doctorate you can do primary school stuff and quick check-ups, at which point you'd alert someone with a doctorate if some serious business needs to happen to the person's teeth.

Sort of like an optometrist versus an opthamologist, I'm guessing?

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Re: Which science?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2014, 08:34:56 pm »
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A quick google tells me that without the doctorate you can do primary school stuff and quick check-ups, at which point you'd alert someone with a doctorate if some serious business needs to happen to the person's teeth.

Sort of like an optometrist versus an opthamologist, I'm guessing?
Hmm from a Google Search that also gives me roughly the same thing... I guess you're right EulerFan101 maybe it is like an optometrist versus an opthamologist!

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Re: Which science?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2014, 08:50:32 pm »
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If you think you'd like to do medicine/medicine related studies
You should be doing chemistry and methods, as above. However, at this point I'd also suggest physics. The reason for this is if you later decide to do post-grad med, you have to do what's called the GAMSAT, which will have first year uni level physics questions on it along with chem and bio. So, if you have to choose between bio and physics, physics is the harder thing to play catch-up with after VCE, so you should start now to prepare for the GAMSAT. Besides, bio is more fun for you, yeah? So you'll be all set to go crazy when you do get to uni for it. :P

No way :P

English + Chem + Bio + Methods + Spesh + <other 1 or 2 subs> is what I'd say is good for med, if you want Psych as that "other" sub then you'd have made a good choice :P

Spesh covers your physics basis (I meant the electronics etc in VCE physics is pretty much taught in high school science with extensions here and there) plus spesh scales way better. Should be easy to pick up these physics concepts in the summer break with ease if the UMAT doesn't go your way, and I'm willing to say there are more people in med who have done spesh than there are in engineering courses (and med peeps probably out-scored them too haha) :P

And one more :P for completeness as 3 is an odd number and I don't like it.

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Re: Which science?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2014, 09:12:11 pm »
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Y'know, unless you go to Monash and have to do PHS1080 because you're not in undergrad med or biomed... :P

Nah, seriously though, you should probably listen to the guy actually studying med over me, hahah.

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Re: Which science?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2014, 09:31:17 pm »
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Do Psych  ;)

But I'd say if you are going to only do one, do chem because it's a pre-req for heaps of uni courses! :)

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Re: Which science?
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2014, 03:39:07 pm »
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doing chem/bio as my sciences. I would generally say

for medicine/biomedicine - Chem + bio

for engineering - Chem + physics

for research - any I guess
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Re: Which science?
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2014, 05:02:25 pm »
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Step 1: Fulfill prerequisites
Step 2: Choose what you like. <---- Golden rule of VCE and life.

It's rare any VCE subject will significantly help you in uni, at least the science ones. VCE bio is rehashed again (now at a faster, less deep pace), physics can be done, psychology can be done. Keep in mind most uni's do not offer "advanced level" psychology or bio. If you did them in VCE, you will have to take the same subject as those who did not do it in VCE. I can't speak for psych but bio was 85% VCE coursework all over again, the rest was quite interesting though. So, basically for those two you do it again.

That said, it is much more helpful to do it before. I know people who didn't do VCE bio and struggled with the content and pace (although now in my 4th year it seems so simple..).

Y'know, unless you go to Monash and have to do PHS1080 because you're not in undergrad med or biomed... :P

Nah, seriously though, you should probably listen to the guy actually studying med over me, hahah.

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Re: Which science?
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2014, 05:06:36 pm »
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doing chem/bio as my sciences. I would generally say

for medicine/biomedicine - Chem + bio

for engineering - Chem + physics

for research - any I guess
For medicine, chemistry alone is enough. Many people in med didn't do biology in VCE and they still do fine in the course.

What is VCE physics by the way?  ;)
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Re: Which science?
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2014, 09:36:56 pm »
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If you think you'd like to do medicine/medicine related studies
You should be doing chemistry and methods, as above. However, at this point I'd also suggest physics. The reason for this is if you later decide to do post-grad med, you have to do what's called the GAMSAT, which will have first year uni level physics questions on it along with chem and bio. So, if you have to choose between bio and physics, physics is the harder thing to play catch-up with after VCE, so you should start now to prepare for the GAMSAT. Besides, bio is more fun for you, yeah? So you'll be all set to go crazy when you do get to uni for it. :P

Just pointing it out, you don't need to do a physics subject to be able to do well in S3 of GAMSAT. While it may help you to have a bit of background, there's no significant advantage of doing VCE Physics just for the GAMSAT because the questions are more heavily based on how you reason with information they give you.

You can probably study for GAMSAT Physics just by watching Khan Academy videos or through self-study and having a basic knowledge on each topic.
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Re: Which science?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2014, 09:42:13 pm »
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Just pointing it out, you don't need to do a physics subject to be able to do well in S3 of GAMSAT. While it may help you to have a bit of background, there's no significant advantage of doing VCE Physics just for the GAMSAT because the questions are more heavily based on how you reason with information they give you.

You can probably study for GAMSAT Physics just by watching Khan Academy videos or through self-study and having a basic knowledge on each topic.


Sorry what's the GAMSAT? I'm only year ten haha

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Re: Which science?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2014, 10:04:18 pm »
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Sorry what's the GAMSAT? I'm only year ten haha

GAMSAT is a test that you need to do if you want to get into postgrad medicine. For undergrad, you need to do a test called UMAT.
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Re: Which science?
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2014, 12:27:11 pm »
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I do all three.
I would say bio is my favourite and physics my least.

Chem is a prerequisite for a lot of courses so I highly reccomend doing it.
If you find bio interesting you should do that, but be warned it has a lot of work. 
So far with physics I've found it very easy. It's mainly simple maths. However, if you are seriously considering engineering you should probably do physics...
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