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JohnH18

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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2014, 08:32:17 pm »
Do you guys think I screwed up for context (CONFLICT)? I winged it with 30 minutes to spare:

I wrote about how the 'powerful' are more vulnerable to intra personal conflict as they have more flexibility in their choices . I discussed how the mere action of making a decision alone can cause intra personal conflict as our intellectual side clashes with our instinctive and intuitive side. I tried to relate this to Paradise Road by talking about how the women (less powerful) 'challenge'  the translator (a powerful character) to do something against the rules, stating that his desire to live up to his values clashes with his intuitive and instinctive \ desire to remain safe, and not disobey the rules of the camp.

I then crapped on for another paragraph about how the powerless are limited to their options and therefore adapt to the conflict easier. Thus, as they have less choices, they are forced to stick with one. The women resolve their inner conflict quickly by developing a women's choir.

You get the point. Crap.

I did somewhat on the same general lines but in a different way. In saying that the powerful and powerless are both harmed, using Paradise Road, Life of Galileo and a current war, i kind of analysed the obvious that the disempowered/powerless (i.e imprisoned women) are harmed through the beatings, torture etc. With the empowered is a bit trickier so kind of like how you said i analysed how it's more of a conscious thing, but they are harmed due to losing morality and being faced with the weight of their actions, rather than the physical punishment of the ladies.

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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2014, 03:55:57 am »
for encountering conflict, is it bad that i didn't use any examples to support my argument outside Paradise Road ?

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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2014, 07:49:48 am »
for encountering conflict, is it bad that i didn't use any examples to support my argument outside Paradise Road ?

Well, it's not great - the key principle behind section B is to identify relevant elements from your text(s), and then draw connections with other sources (external literature, art, real-world scenarios etc.)

Otherwise you are in danger of constructing what is essentially a very specific text response.
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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2014, 08:36:54 am »
I actually quite liked the prompt for Whose Reality?

I wrote as Leunig, and discussed topics like war, the media and parents, and how basically, all of these factors are misrepresented for us, and once we are exposed to the actual realities, we face the consequences.

Initially I was stumped by the prompt, but once I got into the motions of it, I really quite enjoyed writing it (weirdly). :P

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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2014, 08:48:55 am »
Really confident about everything except section B ....

I basically ran out of time and did two huge paragraphs split between Summer of the Seventeenth Doll in both and then As You Like It and Catcher in the Rye. Do you think it will matter that I only did two paragraphs seeing as it was still fairly detailed/long and the paragraphs were somewhat covering similar/contrasting ideas?

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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2014, 09:43:46 am »
Really confident about everything except section B ....

I basically ran out of time and did two huge paragraphs split between Summer of the Seventeenth Doll in both and then As You Like It and Catcher in the Rye. Do you think it will matter that I only did two paragraphs seeing as it was still fairly detailed/long and the paragraphs were somewhat covering similar/contrasting ideas?

You can do section B however you like, so it shouldn't have any effect upon your mark so long as the piece wasn't deficient in any other aspects because of your stylistic decision.
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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2014, 10:04:07 am »
This prompt would have linked quite well with The Lot: In Words by Michael Leunig, which is what I referred to last year.

So similar. VCAA is running out of ideas lol. Either that or they're saving the best till the last exam of the current study design (next year). I drew on ideas about war, the media & how our parents basically concoct this version that the world is a good place and before me know it, bam - the 'shower of shit' as Leunig says! It was basically an inference to illusions.

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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2014, 12:49:13 pm »
Hahahah the ID&B prompt. Could literally talk about ANYTHING related to the context.

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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2014, 01:49:48 pm »
So similar. VCAA is running out of ideas lol. Either that or they're saving the best till the last exam of the current study design (next year). I drew on ideas about war, the media & how our parents basically concoct this version that the world is a good place and before me know it, bam - the 'shower of shit' as Leunig says! It was basically an inference to illusions.

Did you use the word misrepresented? I pretty much had all your ideas, and I paraphrased and used 'distorted' instead. Not sure if that'll cost me

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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2014, 03:02:37 pm »
Did you use the word misrepresented? I pretty much had all your ideas, and I paraphrased and used 'distorted' instead. Not sure if that'll cost me

I didn't say misrepresented because I wanted to preserve the subtly of my piece. However, I definitely made vivid references to it :)

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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2014, 04:31:45 pm »
I didn't say misrepresented because I wanted to preserve the subtly of my piece. However, I definitely made vivid references to it :)

Ah ok, what were the consequences in your piece?

I don't think I answered the prompt enough about the consequences part.

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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2014, 04:55:19 pm »
Ah ok, what were the consequences in your piece?

I don't think I answered the prompt enough about the consequences part.

For parents' upbringing, it was children becoming hurt when they venture into the big bad world.

For war, misrepresenting its reality makes death seem all the more imminent & how it is psychologically scarring, death, etc.

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« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2014, 10:01:52 am »
I don't really know how I'll go ...

First paragraph I spoke about misrepresenting reality in terms of Willy Loman and Lester Burnham ... ultimately leading to their demise. Lester I spoke about coming out of his misrepresentation and seeing others who misrepresent their reality, but due to living that way for such a long time he was killed.

Second paragraph I spoke about memory and cognitive dissonance I think. I spoke about the fluidity of memory changing. Spoke about key witness testimonial (i know its eye i wrote it wrong in exam) and how memory is an impression of our own thoughts, imagination, time etc. I linked this to Wily loman in saying that 'Linda, chevrolette is the best car ever built' then to say that 'they outta prohibit the manufacturer of that car,' and with his son biff who caught him having an affair, Willy repressed this memory and didn't understand why his son hated him, once again leading to him killing himself and damaged relationships.

Third paragraph I spoke about positive illusions misrepresenting your reality. I have zero clue what I spoke about here.

Can ppl please tell me if I went on another tangent or if it was all relative :D I really would like an 8.

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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2014, 10:52:06 am »
I don't really know how I'll go ...

First paragraph I spoke about misrepresenting reality in terms of Willy Loman and Lester Burnham ... ultimately leading to their demise. Lester I spoke about coming out of his misrepresentation and seeing others who misrepresent their reality, but due to living that way for such a long time he was killed.

Second paragraph I spoke about memory and cognitive dissonance I think. I spoke about the fluidity of memory changing. Spoke about key witness testimonial (i know its eye i wrote it wrong in exam) and how memory is an impression of our own thoughts, imagination, time etc. I linked this to Wily loman in saying that 'Linda, chevrolette is the best car ever built' then to say that 'they outta prohibit the manufacturer of that car,' and with his son biff who caught him having an affair, Willy repressed this memory and didn't understand why his son hated him, once again leading to him killing himself and damaged relationships.

Third paragraph I spoke about positive illusions misrepresenting your reality. I have zero clue what I spoke about here.

Can ppl please tell me if I went on another tangent or if it was all relative :D I really would like an 8.

I don't really know what you expect to gain from us - without reading your actual piece it is impossible to give you an accurate indication of how you performed.

Ideas sound fine though, they certainly won't prevent you from getting an 8. Above that however, it depends on the quality of your writing and whether your assessors favour explicit responses or subtle ones.
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Re: Section B Discussion
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2014, 12:04:18 pm »
I don't really know what you expect to gain from us - without reading your actual piece it is impossible to give you an accurate indication of how you performed.

Ideas sound fine though, they certainly won't prevent you from getting an 8. Above that however, it depends on the quality of your writing and whether your assessors favour explicit responses or subtle ones.
Just what I received is what I want :D I was asking whether or not I went on another tangent. Ideas in my mind that are relative to the question are usually not what my teachers have wanted, and I think I did well in the exam.

Thanks.