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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #165 on: October 31, 2014, 05:24:01 pm »
I just said;
- creat two large groups where one is the control - with lys.
- insert polypeptide in the nucleated gene; record accumulation activity.
- if there is accumulation with group 1 and not with group 2 then the hypothesis is supported.
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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #166 on: October 31, 2014, 05:25:45 pm »
- insert polypeptide in the nucleated gene; record accumulation activity.

What? You mean cell?

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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #167 on: October 31, 2014, 05:25:58 pm »
Almost said 'use gene probes', gosh that was tricky.
Also the question about amino acid differences, you (probably) had to relate that to mutations in DNA since amino acids cannot just change by themselves. Thought that was sneaky too.

Are you sure?

I just thought that you had to explain that we know what rate they mutate at, hence we can derive molecular clock. More changes in amino acid = more mutations = more time since species divergence = more unrelated two species are.

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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #168 on: October 31, 2014, 05:26:20 pm »
I just said;
- creat two large groups where one is the control - with lys.
- insert polypeptide in the nucleated gene; record accumulation activity.
- if there is accumulation with group 1 and not with group 2 then the hypothesis is supported.

This is EXACTLY what I wrote down, haha.
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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #169 on: October 31, 2014, 05:27:28 pm »
What? You mean cell?
Yes cell haha
This is EXACTLY what I wrote down, haha.
Let's hope we're right :P
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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #170 on: October 31, 2014, 05:27:40 pm »
Are you sure?

I just thought that you had to explain that we know what rate they mutate at, hence we can derive molecular clock. More changes in amino acid = more mutations = more time since species divergence = more unrelated two species are.

Essentially yes, but amino acids cannot mutate, so unless you relate it to DNA I can't see how the argument makes sense

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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #171 on: October 31, 2014, 05:28:34 pm »
I've attached the exam to the first post (from Stick). Have had a look through milica96's answers. Let's just say she's a gun and a half—they're all correct in my opinion.
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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #172 on: October 31, 2014, 05:29:03 pm »
Essentially yes, but amino acids cannot mutate, so unless you relate it to DNA I can't see how the argument makes sense

Hmm, I see but I've honestly never seen that sort of stuff come up before in a VCAA exam.

I think that might be too indepth for a 2 mark question, but hey you never know.

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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #173 on: October 31, 2014, 05:30:46 pm »
I completed butchered the experimental design question  :'( I initially wrote two groups but then changed it and wrote 8 groups of cells LOL 1-7 inserted with polypeptide chains that had lys in different positions and the 8th group without any polypeptide inserted. Then I mentioned how the results should show that only the group of cells which had a polypeptide inserted with lys in the position it needed to be in (2nd or 3rd? don't remember ahah) would show accumulation, thus proving the scientist's hypothesis. I also had like repetition and whatnot...just ahh, so annoyed at myself  :-\
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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #174 on: October 31, 2014, 05:33:13 pm »
I completed butchered the experimental design question  :'( I initially wrote two groups but then changed it and wrote 8 groups of cells LOL 1-7 inserted with polypeptide chains that had lys in different positions and the 8th group without any polypeptide inserted. Then I mentioned how the results should show that only the group of cells which had a polypeptide inserted with lys in the position it needed to be in (2nd or 3rd? don't remember ahah) would show accumulation, thus proving the scientist's hypothesis. I also had like repetition and whatnot...just ahh, so annoyed at myself  :-\

Don't worry, as long as you've included relevant info you can still get the marks

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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #175 on: October 31, 2014, 05:33:55 pm »
Don't worry, as long as you've included relevant info you can still get the marks

Really?? Massive relief! Thanks :)
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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #176 on: October 31, 2014, 05:36:25 pm »
Tbh the exam looks easy once you look back on it. Feeling somewhat downtrodden for loosing marks that were so easy to gain. All a matter of the moment I suppose.


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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #177 on: October 31, 2014, 05:38:55 pm »
I agree with the solutions posted, except question 20.

I put down C, but is that correct for Meiosis instead?
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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #178 on: October 31, 2014, 05:39:09 pm »
40/40 on MC. What even.  :o
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Re: Biology exam discussion!
« Reply #179 on: October 31, 2014, 05:39:53 pm »
I agree with the solutions posted, except question 20.

I put down C, but is that correct for Meiosis instead?

Yeah correct for meiosis but question was about mitosis