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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #225 on: November 05, 2014, 09:46:26 pm »
I know exam marks can be "pulled up" if your GAT score was much better than your exam score but can your SAC results pull down your exam results?
I felt like this exam was much easier than any of the sacs i have completed this year (still receiving fairly average/good sac results) and going by the suggested answers, I have potentially only lost about 3 marks on the first methods exam. I know i still have to factor in tomorrows exam but what would happen if my exam results were 15% (say 95%)  better than my sac results (all around 80%)
Would they lower my exam mark because of my not so good sac marks?
nup exams are raw, dont change, stay da same, mhmmm  8) 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #226 on: November 05, 2014, 10:48:08 pm »
Here are my preliminary solutions guys :)

I didn't check them, so I may have a few mistakes, but based on conversations with guys who did the exam they seem correct.

P.S. I have a blank copy of the exam too, so I'll upload that next.

Edit: I can now confirm my solutions are correct, except the graph is a bit revolting: I think it should go through (1,2) to get full marks.

Thanks for the solutions!
But I've always wondered, where do people get the exams from?
Especially to have the solutions up like not much after the exam finished.

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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #227 on: November 05, 2014, 10:50:10 pm »
I know exam marks can be "pulled up" if your GAT score was much better than your exam score but can your SAC results pull down your exam results?
I felt like this exam was much easier than any of the sacs i have completed this year (still receiving fairly average/good sac results) and going by the suggested answers, I have potentially only lost about 3 marks on the first methods exam. I know i still have to factor in tomorrows exam but what would happen if my exam results were 15% (say 95%)  better than my sac results (all around 80%)
Would they lower my exam mark because of my not so good sac marks?

GATs do...absolutely NOTHING...I swear...
People keep saying that GAT scores affect your English score. A friend of mine got 36 on the writing part of the GAT and got 49 for English. I got a 36 for the writing part of the GAT too and got a 50 in English Language. Correlation? Zilch. Unless maybe if you missed the exam for some reason.
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #228 on: November 05, 2014, 11:04:04 pm »
GATs do...absolutely NOTHING...I swear...
People keep saying that GAT scores affect your English score. A friend of mine got 36 on the writing part of the GAT and got 49 for English. I got a 36 for the writing part of the GAT too and got a 50 in English Language. Correlation? Zilch. Unless maybe if you missed the exam for some reason.

Okay, good because I am freaking out that if I have done as well as I think I have compared to my not so flash efforts during my sacs, that they are going to pull me up on the 15% improvement and somehow change my exam score to better relate to my sac scores.

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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #229 on: November 05, 2014, 11:40:43 pm »
Okay, good because I am freaking out that if I have done as well as I think I have compared to my not so flash efforts during my sacs, that they are going to pull me up on the 15% improvement and somehow change my exam score to better relate to my sac scores.
if your GAT and exam marks don't correlate all they do is mark it a third time. likewise if your two first marks don't correlate they mark it a third time.  What you get on the exam is what you got without any influence from sacs or GAT.
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #230 on: November 06, 2014, 08:24:43 am »
Thanks for the solutions!
But I've always wondered, where do people get the exams from?
Especially to have the solutions up like not much after the exam finished.

I went to school with the intention of only wanting to see the exam in the morning before I did what I had to do there. Teachers get any exam 30mins after writing time, so I got it then while fetching it for one of my teachers and photocopied it. It was an easy paper (imo, sorry for the guys who found it hard) so I thought "what the heck" and decided to do it. The I did it in about 20mins and had the answers ready for kids coming out of the exams and like counsouled my friends before I uploaded it here :P
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #231 on: November 06, 2014, 09:22:22 am »
I went to school with the intention of only wanting to see the exam in the morning before I did what I had to do there. Teachers get any exam 30mins after writing time, so I got it then while fetching it for one of my teachers and photocopied it. It was an easy paper (imo, sorry for the guys who found it hard) so I thought "what the heck" and decided to do it. The I did it in about 20mins and had the answers ready for kids coming out of the exams and like counsouled my friends before I uploaded it here :P

I'm not surprised. It was of comparable difficulty to the infamous 2011 Specialist Maths exam 1 in which the A+ cutoff was 38.5/40. I mean come on; you had like six full questions or something worth 2 marks each.
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #232 on: November 06, 2014, 09:48:39 am »
I'm not surprised. It was of comparable difficulty to the infamous 2011 Specialist Maths exam 1 in which the A+ cutoff was 38.5/40. I mean come on; you had like six full questions or something worth 2 marks each.

Exactly. I think this was the easiest methods exam yet, unfortunately for everyone. Today will probably be a killer.
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #233 on: November 06, 2014, 10:01:44 am »
It was of comparable difficulty to the infamous 2011 Specialist Maths exam 1 in which the A+ cutoff was 38.5/40.
Spesh Exam this year better not be like 2011. Hoping for something more like 2012, I make a crazy amount of mistakes when I do things by hand.

Anyway, I'm very interested as to what the exam 2 will be like today - it is apparently 5 questions according to exam cover so questions will be a bit shorter overall.
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #234 on: November 06, 2014, 10:42:38 am »
Can your bound reference book just be a booklet of practice exams that you have done and marked yourself?

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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #235 on: November 06, 2014, 11:00:18 am »
Can your bound reference book just be a booklet of practice exams that you have done and marked yourself?

if it's all bounded correctly then I don't see why not
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #236 on: November 06, 2014, 11:34:11 am »

Given the far greater number of students who do methods than spec (and the overall difference in maths ability) if an A+ was 38.5 for a comparable spec exam, wouldn't it basically be guaranteed to be lower than that in this year's exam 1?

And i don't know about the a+ cut off being higher than 36, since  yesterday's exam wasn't hard - but it was definitely not the easiest exam 1 vcaa have done in the past
i dare say it was harder than all of vcaa's past ex 1 except for 2010 and a lot harder than last years, when an a+ was a 36

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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #237 on: November 08, 2014, 10:45:55 am »
Found the exam fairly straight forward. But unfortunately I messed up my dA/du, so I got a quadratic that never equalled zero :/ I rubbed that out and then just assumed the minimum was when u=6.... Hopefully I still get 1/2 for finding A(u).
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Re: Methods Exam 1: Discussion!
« Reply #238 on: November 06, 2015, 12:11:35 pm »
Don't stress so much! Remember, your SACs count more than that exam did.

I highly doubt it. Even so, as long as you did well at the first half and attempted the full second half to the best of your ability, the bell curve will fix it up. This exam certainly looks harder than last years.
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« Reply #239 on: November 06, 2015, 12:11:50 pm »
Don't stress so much! Remember, your SACs count more than that exam did.

I highly doubt it. Even so, as long as you did well at the first half and attempted the full second half to the best of your ability, the bell curve will fix it up. This exam certainly looks harder than last years.
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