ENglish Exam- POV

[ninwa]

just burn the place down ive wanted to do that for AGES


speaking of which ... where exactly are VCAA headquarters

[astarael]

hmm, i think if your response could be addressing the question are "we" as in a society in general are overprotected, rather than children specifically, that would be fine.

that was pretty muvh my contention.  i, too, stated that it was that jack lee bloke who was in need of a reality check and then i talked about the difference between overprotection and education about the real world and how its bad to shelter children from reality and raise them in an idealistic fantasy world blah blah blah.  lol that guy (i know he's not a real person, but still...) didn't even let his kids watch the news...wtf?  so i referenced lee's article and also the cartoon.

*fingers crossed* that was ok.  i can't see VCAA being giant jerks about it, i mean they don't want people to fail and by the sounds of it misinterpreting the prompts was a fairly common mistake amongst a fairly intelligent bunch of people.  so if you're feeling bad right now imagine how your barely literate bogan peers are feeling...

[Pencil]

well they have done it deliberately, I guess they were trying to get us to consider the wider implications, rather than simply arguing 'parents should be protective' etc. but I think it's better when they stick with the straightforward q, and let us consider the broader view ourselves. Because I mean it is one of the most stressful exams, and people are bound to misread the q's especially if they put tricks in. It's stressful enough making sure you write all your essays in the right scriptbooks!

[astarael]

just burn the place down ive wanted to do that for AGES


speaking of which ... where exactly are VCAA headquarters

isn't it where you sit your LOTE oral exams? can't remember where it was, i did a language in '05...

[joechan521]

hey, because all 3 options for pov were about the topic "are we overprotected"
does that mean we have to argue in the POV of a child?

since we meant children??

[ninwa]

just burn the place down ive wanted to do that for AGES


speaking of which ... where exactly are VCAA headquarters

isn't it where you sit your LOTE oral exams? can't remember where it was, i did a language in '05...

I sat mine at violet crumble college (wesley)

no offence to anyone here that goes to wesley

[joechan521]

i sat my LOTE in an underground basement of a very old church...
it was so old...

and dark in side


was in north melb i think

[igs07]

hey, because all 3 options for pov were about the topic "are we overprotected"
does that mean we have to argue in the POV of a child?

since we meant children??

Yeah that's what I thought mid-way through writing mine when I adopted the persona of a father.. but I thought screw it there's no going back.. but a bright student in our class adopted the persona of a professor, I think you could be anyone if you argued it right.

[BA22]

hey, because all 3 options for pov were about the topic "are we overprotected"
does that mean we have to argue in the POV of a child?

since we meant children??

No becuase the VCAA want an appreciation of audience, a child wouldn't be able to write a sohisticated viewpoint. I think it was asking for a societal percpetion of protective parenting, which was acheived if you responded to the stimulus material

[joechan521]

i don't get it, how can for example, parents discuss the topic of "are we overprotected", when they are not the ones being overprotected.

shouldn't the question be "are we overprotective" if was discussed by adults

[igs07]

i don't get it, how can for example, parents discuss the topic of "are we overprotected", when they are not the ones being overprotected.

shouldn't the question be "are we overprotective" if was discussed by adults

Can't you argue from a parents perspective that they are overprotected and it is necessary as a parent to do so.. and refer to the graph of the crime statistics etc?

[BA22]

i don't get it, how can for example, parents discuss the topic of "are we overprotected", when they are not the ones being overprotected.

shouldn't the question be "are we overprotective" if was discussed by adults

yeh . . thus the confusion

It refers to our soceity in general as overprotective to youth, stifling independent learning. This why the letter to the editor was a good choice, by addressing lee directly, we pass comment on the issue, by supporting or attacking him

[ninwa]

I pretended I was a mother who had lost a son because I didn't supervise him ... and went from there. So I argued as a parent why we should protect our children.

I'm sure parents would have legitimate views as to whether children should be (over)protected or not.

[joechan521]

i don't get it, how can for example, parents discuss the topic of "are we overprotected", when they are not the ones being overprotected.

shouldn't the question be "are we overprotective" if was discussed by adults

Can't you argue from a parents perspective that they are overprotected and it is necessary as a parent to do so.. and refer to the graph of the crime statistics etc?

still don't get it, i wrote from a student prespective

[igs07]

i don't get it, how can for example, parents discuss the topic of "are we overprotected", when they are not the ones being overprotected.

shouldn't the question be "are we overprotective" if was discussed by adults

Can't you argue from a parents perspective that they are overprotected and it is necessary as a parent to do so.. and refer to the graph of the crime statistics etc?

still don't get it, i wrote from a student prespective

I was confused as hell as what 'we' meant, to the point it pissed me off that I wasn't going to think about the brain teaser any longer and just continue with my father persona