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ATAR Help!
« on: February 09, 2015, 07:28:47 pm »
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Hi everyone!
Someone help me out here please! I don't know a lot about how the ATAR is calculated so I am hoping that someone could assist me.

I am currently in YR12. In year 11 I studied Geography Units 3&4 (without doing 1&2) I don't understand how I got in. Anyway, I got a crappy study score and I dont want it to contribute to my ATAR this year. I am studying 5 subjects currently.
Thanks

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Re: ATAR Help!
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2015, 08:02:04 pm »
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First, Atar is a rank. You are ranked in comparison with the rest of the state.

As you're doing 6 subjects, your Atar will be calculated by:

English/Lit/Eng Lang. (Has to count in your top 4 no matter what)

You're next best three scores

And then 10% each from your lowest two scores.

So let's put that into practice. Say if you were to score 40 in all your best four subjects that would mean you'd have an aggregate score of 160. Say your lowest two scores were 35 each then that would mean you'd receive another 3.5 aggregate points for each of those scores.

So together that would mean that you have an aggregate score of 167. 167 would roughly equate to about a 93 Atar.

Note: For the purposes of this demonstration I didn't say which subjects and whether they scaled up or not. (That's something that shouldn't be in the back of your mind anyway though).

So basically Geography will count but assuming you score higher than the score you got in Geo in the rest of your subjects it will play a very minor role in your atar score.

You could however do a 7th subject which would erase your Geo score (as a max of 6 are counted toward the atar) but I'd strongly recommend against this as it will only put a heap of pressure on you will make your work load so much harder and difficult.

Hope that helped and I wish you the best with yr 12 :D

EDIT: Scaling shouldn't be in the back of your mind - At all. Do subjects you love and enjoy.
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Re: ATAR Help!
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2015, 08:06:32 pm »
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Hi everyone!
Someone help me out here please! I don't know a lot about how the ATAR is calculated so I am hoping that someone could assist me.

I am currently in YR12. In year 11 I studied Geography Units 3&4 (without doing 1&2) I don't understand how I got in. Anyway, I got a crappy study score and I dont want it to contribute to my ATAR this year. I am studying 5 subjects currently.
Thanks
Is there any particular reason why you don't want it to count? No matter what score you got, ultimately, it will only be beneficial to your ATAR.

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Re: ATAR Help!
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2015, 08:24:45 pm »
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Hi everyone!
Someone help me out here please! I don't know a lot about how the ATAR is calculated so I am hoping that someone could assist me.

I am currently in YR12. In year 11 I studied Geography Units 3&4 (without doing 1&2) I don't understand how I got in. Anyway, I got a crappy study score and I dont want it to contribute to my ATAR this year. I am studying 5 subjects currently.
Thanks

Geography will count towards your ATAR, but probably as a fifth or sixth subject. But no matter what the score was, you will still get extra aggregate points, increasing your ATAR score.

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Re: ATAR Help!
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2015, 08:23:22 am »
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First, Atar is a rank. You are ranked in comparison with the rest of the state.

As you're doing 6 subjects, your Atar will be calculated by:

English/Lit/Eng Lang. (Has to count in your top 4 no matter what)

You're next best three scores

And then 10% each from your lowest two scores.

So let's put that into practice. Say if you were to score 40 in all your best four subjects that would mean you'd have an aggregate score of 160. Say your lowest two scores were 35 each then that would mean you'd receive another 3.5 aggregate points for each of those scores.

So together that would mean that you have an aggregate score of 167. 167 would roughly equate to about a 93 Atar.

Note: For the purposes of this demonstration I didn't say which subjects and whether they scaled up or not. (That's something that shouldn't be in the back of your mind anyway though).

So basically Geography will count but assuming you score higher than the score you got in Geo in the rest of your subjects it will play a very minor role in your atar score.

You could however do a 7th subject which would erase your Geo score (as a max of 6 are counted toward the atar) but I'd strongly recommend against this as it will only put a heap of pressure on you will make your work load so much harder and difficult.

Hope that helped and I wish you the best with yr 12 :D

EDIT: Scaling shouldn't be in the back of your mind - At all. Do subjects you love and enjoy.

Thank you very much for your reply. However I didn't really understand what you meant with
"So basically Geography will count but assuming you score higher than the score you got in Geo in the rest of your subjects it will play a very minor role in your atar score."
Please elaborate if you will.
Thank you!

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Re: ATAR Help!
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2015, 09:50:07 am »
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If you get above the score you received for geography in all your other subjects, then this will push geography down to your bottom two subjects. As only 10% of the bottom two study scores are counted, geography wouldn't contribute much anyway.

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Re: ATAR Help!
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2015, 03:00:27 pm »
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Thank you very much for your reply. However I didn't really understand what you meant with
"So basically Geography will count but assuming you score higher than the score you got in Geo in the rest of your subjects it will play a very minor role in your atar score."
Please elaborate if you will.
Thank you!

Having any study score there will only be beneficial, it will not negatively affect your ATAR. If you leave it there and get a better score in your other subjects, you will just get 5% of it's study score added to your overall score. If you remove it you won't get anything added. It could be the difference between 99.90 and 99.95.
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Re: ATAR Help!
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2015, 04:26:13 pm »
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Thank you very much for your reply. However I didn't really understand what you meant with
"So basically Geography will count but assuming you score higher than the score you got in Geo in the rest of your subjects it will play a very minor role in your atar score."
Please elaborate if you will.
Thank you!

Basically what I'm trying to say is that if you score higher in all your other 5 subjects than you did in Geography then your actual Geography score will play a minor role because only 10% from that score will be added onto your overall aggregate score. Basically that means that if you got 35 then you'll only receive 3.5, 30 would mean 3 etc.

The format would be:
English (has to count)
Your three top scored subjects would come next (non-English).

Your bottom two will only make up 10% of your aggregate score.

To summarize it, all you need to do is make sure that Geo ends up being your lowest Study Score and judging by your post and how keen you are to fix your mistakes from last year, I believe you'll be able to do that.

For now I'd say don't worry about it too much, don't worry about it at all because all it will do is put extra stress and pressure on you. I can confidently say though, if your score for Geo was 'that' disappointing then it's highly likely it'll play a minor role in your ATAR score because you'll end up scoring higher in all your other subjects.

I really hope that makes sense, if it doesn't then I'd probably say don't worry about because it's not important. Just make sure you score higher in your subjects this year.


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Re: ATAR Help!
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2015, 07:53:37 am »
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Hi everyone!
Someone help me out here please! I don't know a lot about how the ATAR is calculated so I am hoping that someone could assist me.

I am currently in YR12. In year 11 I studied Geography Units 3&4 (without doing 1&2) I don't understand how I got in. Anyway, I got a crappy study score and I dont want it to contribute to my ATAR this year. I am studying 5 subjects currently.
Thanks

if you do better in your 5 subjects this year, geography will not matter. just focus on what you did wrong and how to rectify that instead of trying to remove the subject from your score.
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