{SAC RANKINGS} -All you need to know about it-

[cookielife]

For subjects like biology, is GA 1- U3 SACS, Ga 2- U4 SACS and GA3- end of year exam?

[Sine]

For subjects like biology, is GA 1- U3 SACS, Ga 2- U4 SACS and GA3- end of year exam?

Yes

just remember that the sacs are AFTER moderation by VCAA

[aspiringantelope]

Hey wonderful people on AtarNotes!
so i think i went like decent, not to bad on my first two English sacs (that were unit 3 outcome 1, analysing a selected text and creative piece), i wanted to know if i could get like a high ranking if i do well on my next 3 sacs throughout the year, can i still get a 35+ (or 40ish dream come true), i go to a school which has like a 25 or 27 average study score even if i dont rank 1 can i still achieve these scores?
thanks!

I mean your cohort average study score plays a pretty important role in your eventual study score. It would be ideal to be rank 1 because you would get the highest scaled Unit 3/4 SAC scores in the end. However, it would not really affect you if there is a small group of high-performing students that also perform well on the end-of-year exam. So yes, it is still possible to achieve a study score of more than 35+ even if you are not rank 1 and do not go to a high-performing school. Just note that if your cohort doesn't perform that good on the end-of-year exam, your SAC scores will scale down depending on their scores. But not your individual performance. [Correct me if I'm wrong sorry]

[Chocolatemilkshake]

We had a topic test in bio that wasn't considered a SAC, however, our teacher said it would still contribute towards rankings.

I'm a bit confused, isn't it solely SACs that determine our SAC ranking?

Thanks for your help everyone!

[Ribozyme]

We had a topic test in bio that wasn't considered a SAC, however, our teacher said it would still contribute towards rankings.

I'm a bit confused, isn't it solely SACs that determine our SAC ranking?

Thanks for your help everyone!

Yeah so SACs are the only thing that should really contribute to your SAC rankings. However, your teacher may be using this topic test to seperate students if they are on the same ranking/score.

Hope that helps

[Ansaki]

so lets say that someone doesnt do too well in unit 3 for a subject like specialist maths or maths methods but does fairly well in their next 2 sacs (speaking that our school does 3 sacs for the whole year) and ends up with rank 1, if they ace the exam can they still manage a 45+? and what if majority of your sacs lie in unit 4 and you ace them can u still end up with rank 1?

[undefined]

so lets say that someone doesnt do too well in unit 3 for a subject like specialist maths or maths methods but does fairly well in their next 2 sacs (speaking that our school does 3 sacs for the whole year) and ends up with rank 1, if they ace the exam can they still manage a 45+? and what if majority of your sacs lie in unit 4 and you ace them can u still end up with rank 1?

Depends on your final rank after the 3 sacs but generally if you get rank 1 in 2/3 of the sacs and your final rank is say 5 if the people above you are all expecting high 40s there's no reason why you shouldn't too if not a 50. The way the system works is if you are rank 5, the 5th best exam score in your cohort is converted into sac scores and is what you are given for your GA1 (sacs) so if the 5th best exam score in your cohort is very high and you get a very high exam score as well you can expect to get a very high study score. If you get a low rank, however, it gets harder since you need to do better in the exam than if you had a higher rank in order to get the same study score. This might be a bit confusing so tell me if you need more clarification.

[Ansaki]

Depends on your final rank after the 3 sacs but generally if you get rank 1 in 2/3 of the sacs and your final rank is say 5 if the people above you are all expecting high 40s there's no reason why you shouldn't too if not a 50. The way the system works is if you are rank 5, the 5th best exam score in your cohort is converted into sac scores and is what you are given for your GA1 (sacs) so if the 5th best exam score in your cohort is very high and you get a very high exam score as well you can expect to get a very high study score. If you get a low rank, however, it gets harder since you need to do better in the exam than if you had a higher rank in order to get the same study score. This might be a bit confusing so tell me if you need more clarification.

i guess after the teacher told us our ranks today (ONLY the top 3 ranks and i wasnt in the top 3) i got really concerned, my main question was that can i still get rank 1 if i get rank 1 on my next 2 sacs for both methods and specialist. And i did reasonably well on my first chem sac (i got an A) and on my second i completely flunked it, i passed but it wasnt a good grade. For both i didnt get rank 1, if i get rank 1 for the next 3 sacs will that make me rank 1? does the system even work that way, or is it that you have to catch up on the marks that u are behind from the rank 1?
and do ranks get reset in unit 4? how does that work?
thanks for your help undefined.

[whys]

Hello. I have a competitive cohort for psychology, and I'm not sure where I'm ranked. Probably in the top ten, I know that from scores I've heard floating around, but I'm unsure about where exactly I am. So far, my average for all of my sacs is 94% (scaled average), but we still have one more to go. Even if I'm not rank 1, will this still matter in terms of my study score? As in, do I still stand a fair chance at a high 40s study score even though I'm not in the top 3 (Well, technically I could be, because I don't know my ranking, but I doubt it)? I know rankings matter, but in the grand scheme of things will it really matter if my average sac percentage gets moderated by VCAA to around a 97~99%? (depends on the score I get on my last sac)

[Sine]

Hello. I have a competitive cohort for psychology, and I'm not sure where I'm ranked. Probably in the top ten, I know that from scores I've heard floating around, but I'm unsure about where exactly I am. So far, my average for all of my sacs is 94% (scaled average), but we still have one more to go. Even if I'm not rank 1, will this still matter in terms of my study score? As in, do I still stand a fair chance at a high 40s study score even though I'm not in the top 3 (Well, technically I could be, because I don't know my ranking, but I doubt it)? I know rankings matter, but in the grand scheme of things will it really matter if my average sac percentage gets moderated by VCAA to around a 97~99%? (depends on the score I get on my last sac)

If your sacs get moderated by vcaa to 99 you should be fine for most study scores as long as you do really well on the exam. Problems only start to arise if your cohort doesn't do too well on the exam and your sacs don't get moderated up. That really is the risk of having a lower rank is that you are depending on others to do well on the exam as well as yourself.

[cherryblossoms]

Just confirming, if there's 3 or 4 classes for a subject (eg. Biology), you are ranked with everyone in the cohort, not just your own class?

[whys]

Just confirming, if there's 3 or 4 classes for a subject (eg. Biology), you are ranked with everyone in the cohort, not just your own class?

Yes, you are ranked with everyone in the cohort, not your own class.

[h0wLze]

Hi. If I am doing way better than the average in my cohort, will my SS be scaled down?
Say I was averaging 97% in Further Maths, but my cohort average was 70%, should I be afraid?
I really don't want my SS to be scaled down because of dummies in my year level.
Also, I am rank 1 in my cohort of 96, if that changes anything.

[TigerMum]

Hi. If I am doing way better than the average in my cohort, will my SS be scaled down?
Say I was averaging 97% in Further Maths, but my cohort average was 70%, should I be afraid?
I really don't want my SS to be scaled down because of dummies in my year level.
Also, I am rank 1 in my cohort of 96, if that changes anything.

I'm not 100% sure on this, but I am under the impression that if you are rank 1 in SACs AND get the highest in your cohort on exams, then your score will not be influenced AT ALL by what anyone in your cohort gets. If others do better than you on exams, then the notional score that you receive for your SACs is determined by how well the top exam scorer in your cohort did on the exam.

[Sine]

I'm not 100% sure on this, but I am under the impression that if you are rank 1 in SACs AND get the highest in your cohort on exams, then your score will not be influenced AT ALL by what anyone in your cohort gets. If others do better than you on exams, then the notional score that you receive for your SACs is determined by how well the top exam scorer in your cohort did on the exam.

Can confirm that this is absolutely right