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[GGWP VCAA]

What is the difference between euphemisms used negatively, and doublespeak?

TIA

[kiddoes]

What is the difference between euphemisms used negatively, and doublespeak?

TIA

By euphemisms used negatively, do you mean dysphemisms or euphemisms used to deliberately manipulate the truth?

[GGWP VCAA]

By euphemisms used negatively, do you mean dysphemisms or euphemisms used to deliberately manipulate the truth?

second one- sorry...

[kiddoes]

second one- sorry...

That's okay! That's what I thought, I just didn't want to answer you the wrong way  .

Euphemisms are generally used to adhere to politeness principles - even if you are using euphemism to confuse the audience, there is still an association to what the user is really saying.
It's like someone saying "I'm going to powder my nose" when they need to go to the bathroom - they are obfuscating the truth of what they're actually doing to be polite and avoid taboo (making themselves look better). But the audience still knows what they actually mean.
Euphemism is changing meaning, but it's not completely dissociated from the denotation (it's just a different and more polite way of saying things).

Doublespeak, on the other hand, is active deception. It's using words completely separate from the actual meaning to deceive the audience of events that have happened in order to make the user, their actions or their subject more palatable.
This is like the T-Abs immigration department exclusively using "illegal maritime arrivals" or case numbers to refer to asylum seekers they are processing. It is deliberately removing the human element from "asylum seeker", "refugee", "boat people" and all that to make their actions easier for the workers to process (as they are just combating illegal action and not people).
It's also like advertisements using "natural flavors" to talk about their food - we don't know what the heck 'natural flavors' really are, we just know the connotations of 'natural' being good, fresh, etc. and that's all we hear (these are also called 'weasel words').

Hope this helps! 

[GGWP VCAA]

That's okay! That's what I thought, I just didn't want to answer you the wrong way  .

Euphemisms are generally used to adhere to politeness principles - even if you are using euphemism to confuse the audience, there is still an association to what the user is really saying.
It's like someone saying "I'm going to powder my nose" when they need to go to the bathroom - they are obfuscating the truth of what they're actually doing to be polite and avoid taboo (making themselves look better). But the audience still knows what they actually mean.
Euphemism is changing meaning, but it's not completely dissociated from the denotation (it's just a different and more polite way of saying things).

Doublespeak, on the other hand, is active deception. It's using words completely separate from the actual meaning to deceive the audience of events that have happened in order to make the user, their actions or their subject more palatable.
This is like the T-Abs immigration department exclusively using "illegal maritime arrivals" or case numbers to refer to asylum seekers they are processing. It is deliberately removing the human element from "asylum seeker", "refugee", "boat people" and all that to make their actions easier for the workers to process (as they are just combating illegal action and not people).
It's also like advertisements using "natural flavors" to talk about their food - we don't know what the heck 'natural flavors' really are, we just know the connotations of 'natural' being good, fresh, etc. and that's all we hear (these are also called 'weasel words').

Hope this helps! 

so ''scope for renovation'' meaning ''totally run down'' for example could act as a euphemism to deceit people and cover up the truth to make it seem that the property is optimistic and vibrant as well as double speak too, in order to mislead people into thinking that there is potential for the investment. So in this case which is correct and what is the difference?

[kiddoes]

so ''scope for renovation'' meaning ''totally run down'' for example could act as a euphemism to deceit people and cover up the truth to make it seem that the property is optimistic and vibrant as well as double speak too, in order to mislead people into thinking that there is potential for the investment. So in this case which is correct and what is the difference?

'Scope for renovation' would be more of a euphemism - people interested in real estate would understand what that meant but in order to promote the property, the realtors have to use positive language (hence the euphemism).
EDIT - Didn't see that second part! The big difference between euphemism and doublespeak is intention - euphemism is sanitising language to be friendlier or politer - obfuscation. Doublespeak is changing the words you use to separate actions from description and making the user look better for it - deception.

[GGWP VCAA]

The big difference between euphemism and doublespeak is intention - euphemism is sanitising language to be friendlier or politer - obfuscation. Doublespeak is changing the words you use to separate actions from description and making the user look better for it - deception.

Love this part of your answer thank you!!
But with this in mind, can I write about doublespeak and euphemism in the same paragraph?

[kiddoes]

Love this part of your answer thank you!!
But with this in mind, can I write about doublespeak and euphemism in the same paragraph?

You can! Just make sure you differentiate them, and that it's relevant to the context.
(Personally, I'd write them separately if possible because then two body paragraphs for the price of one. But then, I'm cheap.  )