Is vce 3/4 chemistry hard

[Stephrockz23]

Is unit 3/4 chemistry harder than unit 1/2 and how much by?

Also to get a study score of 35 how much would i need go be averaging in my sacs? In unit 1 my average for tests was 78% and unit 2 it was 60% and on both mid and end of year exams i got 58%. Do i need to work harder?

[Sine]

Is unit 3/4 chemistry harder than unit 1/2 and how much by?

Also to get a study score of 35 how much would i need go be averaging in my sacs? In unit 1 my average for tests was 78% and unit 2 it was 60% and on both mid and end of year exams i got 58%. Do i need to work harder?

To answer your question on what you'd need for a SS of 35. A very high B+ on the exam would get slightly over 35 given you have a decent sac rank this varied in 2013 & 2014 from roughly 89-94/120.

[Syndicate]

To answer your question on what you'd need for a SS of 35. A very high B+ on the exam would get slightly over 35 given you have a decent sac rank this varied in 2013 & 2014 from roughly 89-94/120.

Hey Sine,

Do you know what sort of scores, what I be required to maintain in unit 3/4 chemistry for a 49-50?

[Sine]

From what others have got in recent years 114/120 has ranged between a 48-50 with full scaling sacs.

But last year was apparently very easy resulting 115/120 getting a 48.

So 49-50 range would be anywhere between half to a single mark from that.

[blacksanta62]

Is unit 3/4 chemistry harder than unit 1/2 and how much by?

Also to get a study score of 35 how much would i need go be averaging in my sacs? In unit 1 my average for tests was 78% and unit 2 it was 60% and on both mid and end of year exams i got 58%. Do i need to work harder?

I got 57% on my end of year exam for unit 1/2 chemistry but I understood all the concepts well. What my teacher recommended and I started doing was plenty of exam type questions (The one he gave us was challenging but I made silly mistakes dropping 23 points in the short answer, shocker  ). IMO if you got 58% and understood the concepts/calculations in unit 1/2 then unit 3/4 won't be as hard for you as it would be for someone with no previous experience with chem. As for the study score I'm not to sure what would be required for a 35 but I think it you would require C-B+ on SACs and an above average exam score, so above 60%. This is just based off the fact that 30 seems to be the average SS for a lot of subjects. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong 

[keltingmeith]

As for the study score I'm not to sure what would be required for a 35 but I think it you would require C-B+ on SACs and an above average exam score, so above 60%. This is just based off the fact that 30 seems to be the average SS for a lot of subjects. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong 

Firstly - yes, 30 is the average for all subjects.

But remember that study scores aren't linear, they're a bell curve. A score of 45 puts you in the top 2%, but 40 puts you in the top 8%, not 4%. With this in mind, for a 35 (which is just after a very thick part of the bell curve), you're probably looking at scores more like 70-80%

You'll also need to compare to grade distributions to figure out how many people are getting an A, B, C, etc. For some subjects,  80% is the average score, but for others it might be 55%.

Tl;dr, the system is complicated. The easiest way to get the score you want is to aim to ace everything.

[wyzard]

Is unit 3/4 chemistry harder than unit 1/2 and how much by?

Also to get a study score of 35 how much would i need go be averaging in my sacs? In unit 1 my average for tests was 78% and unit 2 it was 60% and on both mid and end of year exams i got 58%. Do i need to work harder?

To answer you question as to whether chemistry 3/4 is harder than 1/2, I will say only slightly more difficult as you will be building upon what you have learned in 1/2. Hence it will be really helpful if you have a solid foundation built from 1/2 in order to proceed smoothly to 3/4.

The essential topics that I highly recommend brushing up are:
- Stoichiometry, including molar and volumetric calculations
- Acid Base reactions
- Redox reactions

The rest are pretty helpful if you understood them. To do better, definitely try to understand chemistry and do ample exercises.

[qazser]

Hey Sine,

Do you know what sort of scores, what I be required to maintain in unit 3/4 chemistry for a 49-50?

you really want that 99.95 don't you

[Syndicate]

you really want that 99.95 don't you

 *keep it a secret* 

[geminii]

Is unit 3/4 chemistry harder than unit 1/2 and how much by?

My chem teacher always says that 3/4 is easier than 1/2, simply because of the fact that 3/4 chemistry mainly expands on your knowledge of 1/2. In 1/2 you learn new concepts for the first time, which is always the hardest part. But in 3/4, you are simply expanding your understanding of things you already have basic knowledge about.
In this regard I'd say 3/4 is easier than 1/2.

[Syndicate]

My chem teacher always says that 3/4 is easier than 1/2, simply because of the fact that 3/4 chemistry mainly expands on your knowledge of 1/2. In 1/2 you learn new concepts for the first time, which is always the hardest part. But in 3/4, you are simply expanding your understanding of things you already have basic knowledge about.
In this regard I'd say 3/4 is easier than 1/2.

I wouldn't exactly agree with that. If you have a look at the VCE chemistry curriculum, it states different topics for each curriculum. However, they might go over the topics, you learnt in units 1 + 2 in a glimpse in year 12.

Here is the copy of the curriculum 
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/chemistry/ChemistrySD-2016.pdf

[Callum@1373]

I wouldn't exactly agree with that. If you have a look at the VCE chemistry curriculum, it states different topics for each curriculum. However, they might go over the topics, you learnt in units 1 + 2 in a glimpse in year 12.

Here is the copy of the curriculum 
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/chemistry/ChemistrySD-2016.pdf

You're missing the point here - AceVCE777 is correct. Some topics are different, yes, but other topics are built on top of 1/2 knowledge. For example, you study organic chemistry in 1/2 and then expand on that knowledge in 3/4 with some extra material. Same goes with acids and bases, you study them in 1/2 and then you expand on it a bit in 3/4, for example calculating the pH of weak acids, which is new because you only calculate the pH of strong acids in 1/2

[keltingmeith]

Fun fact: everyone teaches 1/2 chemistry differently. If your teacher tells you something, it's probably true for your school. If someone else's teacher tells them something, it's probably true for their school.

[sprout]

Is unit 3/4 chemistry harder than unit 1/2 and how much by?

I found 3/4 chem harder than 1/2. In 1/2 chem, there's more of a focus on calculation questions rather than theory and I found that easier to grasp. (Probably because I'm more maths orientated)
In 3/4, I found there to be more theory/memorising which to me, was harder.
However, depending on your strengths, you may find 3/4 chem easier since you're reinforcing your 1/2 chem knowledge whilst learning some new concepts (which is mostly theory).

[Syndicate]

You're missing the point here - AceVCE777 is correct. Some topics are different, yes, but other topics are built on top of 1/2 knowledge. For example, you study organic chemistry in 1/2 and then expand on that knowledge in 3/4 with some extra material. Same goes with acids and bases, you study them in 1/2 and then you expand on it a bit in 3/4, for example calculating the pH of weak acids, which is new because you only calculate the pH of strong acids in 1/2

yes, but I meant to say was that it isn't directly expanding from 1/2 chemistry, unlike maths where one would learn something in units 1/2, and would further expand/use those skills in units 3/4.