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Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« on: January 18, 2016, 08:44:00 am »
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Hi everyone!

I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on what would be some easy or enjoyable breadth subjects for a student studying Biomedicine?
I'm currently looking at some semester 1 (level 1) breadths and am extremely indecisive. Are there any that you would recommend/ not recommend me doing?

Thank you! :)
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2016, 09:25:32 am »
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Have you considered continuing on with French or perhaps even picking up a new language?
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2016, 10:57:39 am »
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I find intro micro interesting. Easy H1 if you're interested in commerce subjects
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 11:01:45 am »
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Have you considered continuing on with French or perhaps even picking up a new language?
I've been contemplating on continuing with French or Latin but I'm worried about the time commitment/I would like to explore other areas of study :P

I find intro micro interesting. Easy H1 if you're interested in commerce subjects
Are the commerce breadth subjects manageable for someone who has no background in commerce?
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 11:17:26 am »
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Are the commerce breadth subjects manageable for someone who has no background in commerce?
I studied a bit of accounting in high school but had no background in economics. One of the assignments that was worth 15% was kinda hard but the other assignment, MST and end of sem exam were pretty alright. But I think I left the assignment that I didn't do well on until few days before the due date so don't be like me haha and start earlier. The assignments will be available two to three weeks before the due date but some content will only be taught in the week before the due date.
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 01:24:32 pm »
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I highly recommend World Music Choir 3 (or any type of singing breadth).

Upon graduating, this was definitely a highlight of my time at uni. Even more fun if you have some friends with you. The assessment is easy if you have any music knowledge and willing to come to singing class and participate.

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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2016, 01:38:04 pm »
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Genetics Health & society is pretty good, especially if you want to do med, you learn about ethics in health and whatnot which I thought was pretty interesting. It's pretty easy to score well in, everyone in my assignment group got H1 overall. I think the only major downside is there is a 60% exam and it's probably not as relaxed as choir, music psych etc.
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2016, 02:58:05 pm »
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Hi everyone!

I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on what would be some easy or enjoyable breadth subjects for a student studying Biomedicine?
I'm currently looking at some semester 1 (level 1) breadths and am extremely indecisive. Are there any that you would recommend/ not recommend me doing?

Thank you! :)

In all honesty, just find something that you really enjoy. In most cases non-Science subjects tend to be lighter than your first year cores so it shouldn't to be an issue. For example I studied Italian and while languages might be perceived as having a heavier workload than other subjects it was still lighter than all my core subjects.

In general Biomedicine students tend to be a little bit pesky and find subjects that align somewhat closely with their interest in sciences. Commerce subjects, psychology subjects, linguistics subjects (if not languages themselves), subjects that still require the use of maths and multidisciplinary subjects with a focus in biomedical science all tend to be quite popular.

I highly recommend World Music Choir 3 (or any type of singing breadth).

Upon graduating, this was definitely a highlight of my time at uni. Even more fun if you have some friends with you. The assessment is easy if you have any music knowledge and willing to come to singing class and participate.

I wrote a review a while back so have a read if you like!
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Genetics Health & society is pretty good, especially if you want to do med, you learn about ethics in health and whatnot which I thought was pretty interesting. It's pretty easy to score well in, everyone in my assignment group got H1 overall. I think the only major downside is there is a 60% exam and it's probably not as relaxed as choir, music psych etc.

These are level 2 subjects, first years can only really do level 2 subjects in semester 2 after they've completed 50 credit points of level 1 subjects.
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 04:46:22 pm »
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In most cases non-Science subjects tend to be lighter than your first year cores so it shouldn't to be an issue. For example I studied Italian and while languages might be perceived as having a heavier workload than other subjects it was still lighter than all my core subjects.

In general, the step up from vce languages e.g. italian 3/4 -> italian 5 or italian 6 is quite big compared to say studying a beginner's or intermediate level language where the possibility of a H1 is much more achievable. The problem with studying languages at a more advanced level is that often they do require as much study as your cores. I hear good things about beginner level languages such as spanish 1 howlingwisdom.
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016, 04:59:00 pm »
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In general, the step up from vce languages e.g. italian 3/4 -> italian 5 or italian 6 is quite big compared to say studying a beginner's or intermediate level language where the possibility of a H1 is much more achievable. The problem with studying languages at a more advanced level is that often they do require as much study as your cores. I hear good things about beginner level languages such as spanish 1 howlingwisdom.

Maybe Italian 5 is an exception because people said it was still manageable, just not taught and co-ordinated well. But yes, you're right: languages at levels 1-4 tend to be good breadth options.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2016, 02:48:41 pm »
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I've been contemplating on continuing with French or Latin but I'm worried about the time commitment/I would like to explore other areas of study

Hey!
I'm a Classics major who specializes in Latin. It is incredibly demanding (so unless you want to dedicate hours every night to memorization I suggest French). It is also quite difficult. Over half the entire cohort dropped it after the first semester so I suppose that demonstrates a lot (there were only about 15 people in Latin 4 last year). It's usually reserved for those who want to major in Classics and from what I hear, there has been quite a lot of discussion about removing it from the intensive altogether since many students have complained about its difficulty. You have to be very passionate to put up with Latin but if you love it, then you won't mind the workload.

Hope this helps :)
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2016, 11:09:01 am »
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I'm a Classics major who specializes in Latin. It is incredibly demanding (so unless you want to dedicate hours every night to memorization I suggest French). It is also quite difficult. Over half the entire cohort dropped it after the first semester so I suppose that demonstrates a lot (there were only about 15 people in Latin 4 last year). It's usually reserved for those who want to major in Classics and from what I hear, there has been quite a lot of discussion about removing it from the intensive altogether since many students have complained about its difficulty. You have to be very passionate to put up with Latin but if you love it, then you won't mind the workload.

Hope this helps :)

Strange post above. I did all the Latin subjects at Melb Uni as breadth, not sure what the poster above is talking about. There were lots of people doing it as breadth. Also, some of us found that it was quite a bit easier than Year 12 Latin: lots of spoon-feeding and giving you the answers (especially in unseens, where they tend to give you almost every word in 2nd year Latin subjects; moreover, the lecturer would always tell you which author would be on the unseen, unlike in Year 12 when it is completely random). Not sure why the poster above is saying that it involved 'hours of memorisation' every night; I get the sense that he/she is exaggerating the difficulty of the subject for some odd reason. In second year (the year of breadth I presume the main poster is thinking of doing) you didn't have to memorise much at all compared to year 12: all you had to learn was the translation, without having to memorise all of the extra points of poetic tropes, essay ideas, etc., and just like at school the lecturer Sonya Wurster goes through the translation slowly and clearly in tutorials. Sure, Latin is a little harder than the straight-out essay subjects, but the marking scheme is straightforward and it's not too hard to get a mark in the 90s if you put in a decent effort and respect the subject. The thing is most people are deluded if they think they can waltz into a subject, do no work, and get a top mark; you're gonna have to work for good marks at uni.

I just didn't like how the poster above tried to make it sound like Latin at Melb Uni is the most difficult subject in the world-it was quite disingenuous and unhelpful for the main poster who is genuinely interested in doing the subject and who might have preferred a genuine outline of how the subject. I'm also slightly confused about the above poster's comment 'I'm a classics major who specialises in Latin': when I was doing Latin the people actually majoring in Classics would 'specialise' in both languages (Latin, Greek, and usually to a lesser extent in something else too for a semester, like Syriac, Egyptian, Akkadian, Sanskrit) to the same very high level. Weird to do Classics and specialise in Latin: making things extremely difficult if you want to do Honours. Are you instead doing the Diploma or have they changed it so that, quite bizarrely, you can do Classics without being able to read both languages with equal high fluency (which is basically a waste of time, according to the Classics majors I met who did both and were brilliant at both, since you won't be able to read 'half' the evidence properly, and you have to be able to read Greek plays almost off-the-cuff in Honours)?

I can't comment on French since I haven't done it at Melb; but I have heard good things about it. You will find that there is certainly more memorisation in the French course, however, because as I've heard you usually have to learn words from reading every week in addition to writing mini assignments in French and/or oral presentations, so you're always actively looking at new words and having to use them whereas in Latin you're usually reading, finding new words, and just remembering them for next time you come across them in reading.

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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2016, 07:17:47 pm »
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For breadth subjects, choose something that is interesting and useful to you, rather than just going for an easy pass.

At the end of your course, it's much better to do a breadth subject that even though you don't do so well but you learn something interesting and useful, than going for an easy pass and getting nothing meaningful out of it.

With that said, I'm currently doing Japanese as breadth a I'm loving it :D I did Positive Psychology last year called Wellbeing, Motivation, Performance and it was really good. There are many possibilities; such as commerce, programming, new language, psychology etc. Definitely take your time to choose something you'll really like and find useful :)
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2016, 07:43:22 pm »
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Strange post above. I did all the Latin subjects at Melb Uni as breadth, not sure what the poster above is talking about. There were lots of people doing it as breadth. Also, some of us found that it was quite a bit easier than Year 12 Latin: lots of spoon-feeding and giving you the answers (especially in unseens, where they tend to give you almost every word in 2nd year Latin subjects; moreover, the lecturer would always tell you which author would be on the unseen, unlike in Year 12 when it is completely random). Not sure why the poster above is saying that it involved 'hours of memorisation' every night; I get the sense that he/she is exaggerating the difficulty of the subject for some odd reason. In second year (the year of breadth I presume the main poster is thinking of doing) you didn't have to memorise much at all compared to year 12: all you had to learn was the translation, without having to memorise all of the extra points of poetic tropes, essay ideas, etc., and just like at school the lecturer Sonya Wurster goes through the translation slowly and clearly in tutorials. Sure, Latin is a little harder than the straight-out essay subjects, but the marking scheme is straightforward and it's not too hard to get a mark in the 90s if you put in a decent effort and respect the subject. The thing is most people are deluded if they think they can waltz into a subject, do no work, and get a top mark; you're gonna have to work for good marks at uni.

To each their own but for some reason A LOT of people dropped out of Latin in my year level because they found it difficult. I actually left a subject review, detailing this and I've spoken to a few of the professors about it as well. Perhaps that was the issue with the students in my level (it wasn't my place to ask if they had actually been putting in the effort when they decided to drop out) but OP has specifically asked for an easy breadth and like you said, there needs to be decent effort. Glee Singing or Choir requires minimal effort unlike Latin, which does have a demanding workload in the beginning. At least, that's how I felt. I am certainly not exaggerating and I would hope that none of my peers were either. Latin completely drained me in the first year of uni but that was MY experience. I can only share my experience and the experience that others have shared with me.  I really wish that more people studied Latin since I think that it's such a lovely language.

Glad you had a good experience though! I was not intending to sound rude, so sorry if it came across as such?
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Re: Easy/Enjoyable Breadths?
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2016, 09:17:27 pm »
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Glee Singing or Choir requires minimal effort unlike Latin

Effort is relative to the person, Latin might require less effort that Glee Singing for some.