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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3525 on: July 13, 2018, 04:27:28 pm »
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Just wondering if there is a general rule for integrating fractions? It doesn't seem to be in my textbook and I seem to hit a deadend every time I run into a similar sort of problem.

E.g integral of (x/ (x^2 - 9))
 
Or integral of (1/(x+4))

I know how to for exponentials or logarithmic equations, but can't seem to make it work for these ones!
Thankss!! ;D

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3526 on: July 13, 2018, 06:08:20 pm »
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@Lara.C, basically the goal is recognise the numerator is the differential of the denominator, which when you integrate gives a log.
Integration by substitution is an MX1 concept and not examinable here. They're required to use the rule \( \int \frac{f^\prime(x)}{f(x)}\,dx = \ln [f(x)]+C \).
Just wondering if there is a general rule for integrating fractions? It doesn't seem to be in my textbook and I seem to hit a deadend every time I run into a similar sort of problem.

E.g integral of (x/ (x^2 - 9))
 
Or integral of (1/(x+4))

I know how to for exponentials or logarithmic equations, but can't seem to make it work for these ones!
Thankss!! ;D
For the second one, integrals of the form \( \int \frac{1}{ax+b}dx \) you're just expected to know that turns into \( \frac{1}{a}\ln(ax+b)+C \)

Whereas for the first one, you need to get used to using that rule. Which relies essentially on you recognising that what's on the top, looks very similar to what's on the bottom, except it's out by a constant. In particular, the derivative of the bottom here is \( \frac{d}{dx}(x^2-9)=2x\), but on the numerator we just have \(x\) by itself.

...So we multiply some fudge factors to force the numerator into being \(2x\).
\begin{align*}\int \frac{x}{x^2-9}\,dx &= \frac12\int \frac{2x}{x^2-9}\,dx\\ &= \frac12\ln (x^2-9)+C\end{align*}
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3527 on: July 18, 2018, 09:45:36 am »
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hi, can you please recommend me a maths study textbook. I want a textbook that will help me understand hard questions through examples.

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« Reply #3528 on: July 18, 2018, 10:56:19 pm »
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hi, can you please recommend me a maths study textbook. I want a textbook that will help me understand hard questions through examples.
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For me past paper questions and the worked solutions that come with that work the best!
Or else try Coroneous, they have separate worked solutions books that come with them!
Hope it helps- Good luck!
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3529 on: July 18, 2018, 11:17:11 pm »
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hi, can you please recommend me a maths study textbook. I want a textbook that will help me understand hard questions through examples.

Honestly at this point, you're better off doing past papers and trial papers from other schools. If you can find them, selective school papers tend to be more difficult and with worked solutions, so they're super useful. That being said, Cambridge 2U has examples before each exercise so that's not bad and I believe New Senior Mathematics, or the Fitzpatrick 2U textbook has separate worked solutions as well.
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3530 on: July 21, 2018, 03:58:27 pm »
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Hello :))
This question is frm CSSA 2017, last question. I dont understand part iii. Like in the answers i dont get how they get to q=+- root 3/2 and how the third quadrant makes it a minus since there are no sin, cos etc.

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3531 on: July 21, 2018, 04:45:06 pm »
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Hello :))
This question is frm CSSA 2017, last question. I dont understand part iii. Like in the answers i dont get how they get to q=+- root 3/2 and how the third quadrant makes it a minus since there are no sin, cos etc.

Thank you :)

Hey hey! So they conclude that \(q\) must be negative, because the point Q is to the left of the origin. So, it's \(x\) coordinate must be negative.

So:



Since Q is left of the origin, then \(q\) must be a negative number ;D

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« Reply #3532 on: July 21, 2018, 09:10:05 pm »
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how do you do this question?

Mary buys 20 tickets in a lottery that has 5000 tickets altogether. Find the probability that Mary will win
(a) first and second prize (b) second prize only
(c) neither first nor second prize.

also this question



i just need help with a question from my textbook 

The two machines in a workshop each have a probability of 1
of breaking down. Find the probability that at any one time (a) neither machine will be broken down
(b) 1 machine will be broken down.



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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3533 on: July 21, 2018, 09:39:19 pm »
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how do you do this question?

Mary buys 20 tickets in a lottery that has 5000 tickets altogether. Find the probability that Mary will win
(a) first and second prize (b) second prize only
(c) neither first nor second prize.
a) This is a basic application of the product rule. First, recognise the fact that since its a lottery each time someone wins a prize a ticket is 'used up', that is, the total number of tickets decreases after each prize is given out.



b) To win the second prize only implies she doesnt win the first prize, the chance of not winning the first prize is 5000-20 = 4980, that is mary has 4980/5000 chance of losing.



c) Using the same logic in b)
 

Hope this helps :)
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3534 on: July 21, 2018, 09:42:38 pm »
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hello

i just need help with a question from my textbook 

The two machines in a workshop each have a probability of 1
of breaking down. Find the probability that at any one time (a) neither machine will be broken down
(b) 1 machine will be broken down.
Is there a typo with this question?? , since if there is a probability of 1 of breaking down then its certain it will breakdown regardless of what the situation is.
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« Reply #3535 on: July 21, 2018, 10:28:25 pm »
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Is there a typo with this question?? , since if there is a probability of 1 of breaking down then its certain it will breakdown regardless of what the situation is.

oh sorry its 1/45

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« Reply #3536 on: July 21, 2018, 10:36:32 pm »
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how do you do this

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3537 on: July 21, 2018, 10:44:53 pm »
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hello

i just need help with a question from my textbook 

The two machines in a workshop each have a probability of 1
of breaking down. Find the probability that at any one time (a) neither machine will be broken down
(b) 1 machine will be broken down.

a)

b) As the question doesnt state a specific order in which the either one of the machine will break down, there are two possibilities: Machine 1 breaks down and machine 2 doesnt, OR machine 1 doesnt break down and machine 2 breaks, so:
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« Reply #3538 on: July 21, 2018, 10:55:11 pm »
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a)

b) As the question doesnt state a specific order in which the either one of the machine will break down, there are two possibilities: Machine 1 breaks down and machine 2 doesnt, OR machine 1 doesnt break down and machine 2 breaks, so:



how would you draw a tree diagram for that question

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3539 on: July 21, 2018, 11:05:15 pm »
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