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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2550 on: August 01, 2017, 09:15:55 pm »
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Sorry I have another question.
for part iv, how do I prove it is the shortest beam? I managed to get this value when dy/da=0, but i don't know how to prove minimisation with this question


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With that second one, both the second derivative and table method lack any appeal whatsoever. How many marks was it worth? (Unless it's worth at least 3 marks, the test should not be necessary for this question, whatever it's source was.)

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2551 on: August 01, 2017, 09:34:24 pm »
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ahh thank you!! that question was only worth 2 marks and the solution itself didn't prove that it was a minimum. I was just checking because i usually lose marks for forgetting to justify max/min.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2552 on: August 01, 2017, 11:37:23 pm »
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ahh thank you!! that question was only worth 2 marks and the solution itself didn't prove that it was a minimum. I was just checking because i usually lose marks for forgetting to justify max/min.
Usually you should. That particular question was just taking it too far

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2553 on: August 02, 2017, 09:56:55 am »
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Hi,
I was just wondering if someone could explain Question 6 to me:
You need to find the general solution of cos2x=√2 / 2
I solved this by finding x= π/8, and (7π)/8
so I assumed the answer would be
B,

But the answer kept 2x= π/4, (7π/4)
& created a general solution out of this and then divided everything by 2, giving A as the answer.

So I'm just a bit confused why one way is right and the other is not?
(I have attached the question, its from the James Ruse 2016 Trial.)

I am also unsure what the answers have done for Question 3, and 12 d) ii).

If you need me to post the answers, just let me know.
Thanks

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2554 on: August 02, 2017, 10:13:05 am »
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Hi,
I was just wondering if someone could explain Question 6 to me:
You need to find the general solution of cos2x=√2 / 2
I solved this by finding x= π/8, and (7π)/8
so I assumed the answer would be
B,

But the answer kept 2x= π/4, (7π/4)
& created a general solution out of this and then divided everything by 2, giving A as the answer.

So I'm just a bit confused why one way is right and the other is not?
(I have attached the question, its from the James Ruse 2016 Trial.)

I am also unsure what the answers have done for Question 3, and 12 d) ii).

If you need me to post the answers, just let me know.
Thanks

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2555 on: August 02, 2017, 10:26:01 am »
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Q12 d) ii)
Use Binomial probability:
To calculate the four odd numbers, we get: (1/2)^4, since in each stage, there are only 3 odd numbers.
To calculate the 2 sixes, we get (1/6)^2

Using Binomial probability, we get 6C2 * (1/6)^2 * (1/2)^4
= 5/192

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2556 on: August 02, 2017, 12:15:47 pm »
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Thank you,

I'm still just a bit confused with the binomial probability as with:
nCr p^r q^n-r
where p= probability of success, and q= probability of failure.
I thought that p+q had to =1 ?

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2557 on: August 02, 2017, 12:24:32 pm »
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Thank you,

I'm still just a bit confused with the binomial probability as with:
nCr p^r q^n-r
where p= probability of success, and q= probability of failure.
I thought that p+q had to =1 ?
It's not actually a binomial probability - he misused the terminology there. It's similar to binomial probability, but it isn't exactly that. Intuitively, this is because he didn't associate a success and failure outcome; if a success is getting a 6, a fail is not getting a 6; not specifically an odd number.

I just didn't comment because I thought his final answer was still correct anyhow (unless it wasn't).

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2558 on: August 02, 2017, 12:26:43 pm »
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Oh ok thank you,
and yes it's correct.
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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2559 on: August 02, 2017, 12:30:30 pm »
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It's not actually a binomial probability - he misused the terminology there. It's similar to binomial probability, but it isn't exactly that. Intuitively, this is because he didn't associate a success and failure outcome; if a success is getting a 6, a fail is not getting a 6; not specifically an odd number.

I just didn't comment because I thought his final answer was still correct anyhow (unless it wasn't).
Yeah, my mistake.

Method is still correct, but I'll explain it a bit clearer.
Since we want two sixes, chances of that happening is (1/6)^2.
Since we also want four odds, chances of that is (1/2)^4.

Now, the question doesn't ask for a particular order in which they may occur. So, we use the combination form: 6C2 or 6C4 -> they yield the same outcome, due to binomial symmetry.
This just means there are 6C2 ways of selecting two sixes, and 4 odd numbers.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2560 on: August 02, 2017, 12:32:52 pm »
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Yeah, my mistake.

Method is still correct, but I'll explain it a bit clearer.
Since we want two sixes, chances of that happening is (1/6)^2.
Since we also want four odds, chances of that is (1/2)^4.

Now, the question doesn't ask for a particular order in which they may occur. So, we use the combination form: 6C2 or 6C4 -> they yield the same outcome, due to binomial symmetry.
This just means there are 6C2 ways of selecting two sixes, and 4 odd numbers.
Yeah. That looks more accurate.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2561 on: August 02, 2017, 03:26:35 pm »
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Hi,
could you help me with this? thanks

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2562 on: August 02, 2017, 03:47:18 pm »
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Hi,
could you help me with this? thanks
Trapezoidal rule: h/2(f(a) + f(b) + 2f((a+b)/2), where h is the interval between two function values.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2563 on: August 02, 2017, 03:51:59 pm »
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Hi,
I was just wondering if this is correct?
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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #2564 on: August 02, 2017, 03:55:42 pm »
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Hi,
I was just wondering if this is correct?
Thanks
Yeah, that looks correct.
If you're unsure, plug some values for t