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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3255 on: February 11, 2018, 03:54:22 pm »
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I don't quite understand these questions.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3256 on: February 11, 2018, 04:17:23 pm »
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I don't quite understand these questions.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3257 on: February 11, 2018, 08:53:01 pm »
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For this question, would b be needed to be found algebraically? (from part a)

Or would it need to be found graphically from a? Not quite sure how to do it algebraically :/, hoping it isn't in a test

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3258 on: February 11, 2018, 09:01:31 pm »
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For this question, would b be needed to be found algebraically? (from part a)

Or would it need to be found graphically from a? Not quite sure how to do it algebraically :/, hoping it isn't in a test


There is no way of doing it algebraically. You must rely on the graphs.
I don't quite understand these questions.




Following a similar process, \(5^2\) is the greatest power of 5 that is a factor of \(10!\), and hence your answer for that part is just 2.

You will do the same thing for \(100!\) however it will be tedious. There are clever ways of speeding up the computations a bit but I will not go over them unless you ask for them, since they are more advanced.

Edit: Alternate method for \(10!\)

\begin{align*}&\quad 10!\\ &= 10\times 9\times 8\times 7\times 6\times 5\times 4\times 3\times 2\times 1\\ &= (5\times2)\times (3^2)\times (2^3)\times 7 \times (3\times 2) \times 5 \times (2^2)\times 3\times 2\\ &= 2^8\times 3^4 \times 5^2 \times 7\end{align*}
So just reading off that, the answer to the first one is 8 and the answer to the second one is 2.
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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3259 on: February 12, 2018, 09:29:16 am »
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Hi, I'm really struggling with 3u curve sketching. Here's a question that I'm struggling with:
Sketch, showing all stationary points, asymptotes and points of inflextion
y = 2/(x2+3)


(From Magaret Grove Textbook)
Thank you :)

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3260 on: February 12, 2018, 09:40:15 am »
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Hi, I'm really struggling with 3u curve sketching. Here's a question that I'm struggling with:
Sketch, showing all stationary points, asymptotes and points of inflextion
y = 2/(x2+3)


(From Magaret Grove Textbook)
Thank you :)


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The possible points of inflexion occur when \( \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=0 \) which will be when \(x = \pm 1\). You can then do a check to determine that indeed, we do have stationary points there.


These types of questions are fairly straightforward so you are expected to know how to do them. The difference is that they're more computationally demanding so if there are any particular bits you're unsure about, clearly state what they are.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3261 on: February 12, 2018, 06:55:20 pm »
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hello,
im having some difficulties with induction...

i would truly appreciate it if someone could help me with this question.
-4+8-16+...-4(-2)^n-1= 4((-2)-1) all over 3, for all n>=1
I have proved n=1 and assumed n=k, but i am just stuck on proving n=k+1

....this seems to be the trend with most questions i do :( :P...if there are any tricks or something to help it would be great to know

thanks ;D :D

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3262 on: February 12, 2018, 07:34:46 pm »
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The possible points of inflexion occur when \( \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=0 \) which will be when \(x = \pm 1\). You can then do a check to determine that indeed, we do have stationary points there.

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These types of questions are fairly straightforward so you are expected to know how to do them. The difference is that they're more computationally demanding so if there are any particular bits you're unsure about, clearly state what they are.

I am actually interested in this more clever method.

Also, how do I do this?

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3263 on: February 12, 2018, 08:18:53 pm »
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I am actually interested in this more clever method.

Also, how do I do this?
Alright, here's the more clever method. Let me know if there's some bits that confuse you.
Setting the whole idea up using the 10! example


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E.g. 6 is a multiple of 2, and it will spit out a factor of 2 since \(6 = 2\times 3\).

What that says is consider this. The multiples of 2 that appear are 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10. Since 2 appears, the amount of times 10! is divisible by 2 is at least one. Since 4 also appears, the amount of times 10! is divisible by 2 will also go up again by one (in fact, two, but we temporarily ignore that and say one). Since 6 also appears, 10! is divisible by 2 yet again.
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That is to say, since 10! is divisible by the following multiples of 2: (2,4,6,8,10), 10! is divisible by \(2^5\) already. But since 10! is also divisible by the following multiples of 4: (4,8), 10! is also divisible by yet another \(2^2\). And hence, 10! is now divisible by \(2^7\).

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Note that the whole point of noting that 8 was the largest number below powers of 2 was so that we knew when to stop. We do not have to consider numbers that are also multiples of 16, since 16 doesn't even appear in the expansion of 10!.

Giving us our final result of \(2^8\), and hence the answer is 8.


So \(100!\) must be divisible by \(2^{50}\)

So \(100!\) must be divisible by a further \(2^{25} \)


Hence, \(100!\) must be divisible by a further \(2^{12}\) as well.

After considering multiples of 16, \(100!\) is divisible by another \(2^6 \)
After considering multiples of 32, \(100!\) is divisible by another \(2^3\)
After considering multiples of 64, \(100!\) is divisible by another \(2^1\)

...giving us a final answer of 97.
Going a bit beyond HSC and into uni level maths...



where \( \lfloor x \rfloor\) denotes the floor function of \(x\), which gives you the value of \(x\) rounded down to the nearest integer
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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3264 on: February 13, 2018, 06:33:07 am »
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Ohhh, I get it

So if you were to do something like find the factors of 3 in 120!

You would do,

120/3 = 40
120/9 ≈ 13
120/27 ≈ 4
120/81 ≈ 1
Therefore, the greatest power of 3 is 3^58 in 120!

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3265 on: February 13, 2018, 08:41:01 am »
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Ohhh, I get it

So if you were to do something like find the factors of 3 in 120!

You would do,

120/3 = 40
120/9 ≈ 13
120/27 ≈ 4
120/81 ≈ 1
Therefore, the greatest power of 3 is 3^58 in 120!
Yep, looks good to me :)
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I'm fairly sure you'd be safe doing something like this in 3U. However if you feel this method is a bit dodgy you can always prove it by induction.

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We basically plug in values for \(k = n, n-1, \dots, 1, 0\) first, and then also plug in for \(k = n+1, n+2, \dots\)

Aside: This is actually a sneak peek into Taylor series. It goes on to eventually proving that the Taylor series for any polynomial is actually itself.

hello,
im having some difficulties with induction...

i would truly appreciate it if someone could help me with this question.
-4+8-16+...-4(-2)^n-1= 4((-2)-1) all over 3, for all n>=1
I have proved n=1 and assumed n=k, but i am just stuck on proving n=k+1

....this seems to be the trend with most questions i do :( :P...if there are any tricks or something to help it would be great to know

thanks ;D :D
By the way, you most likely mistyped your question. Your RHS doesn't make sense since you don't have \(n\) anywhere.
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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3266 on: February 13, 2018, 03:29:37 pm »
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I just started trigonometric functions,
can someone help me with this question:

ABC has a perimeter of 12m, show that the area is given by:
A= 72x/(x+2)^2                      (x is the angle theta, I was unable to write it)

Thank you.

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3267 on: February 13, 2018, 06:20:47 pm »
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I just started trigonometric functions,
can someone help me with this question:

ABC has a perimeter of 12m, show that the area is given by:
A= 72x/(x+2)^2                      (x is the angle theta, I was unable to write it)

Thank you.
I presume you want the area of ABC but what is ABC? Is it a triangle, sector, ...?

And which angle is theta? Is it angle ABC, or angle BAC, ...

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3268 on: February 13, 2018, 06:29:31 pm »
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By the way, you most likely mistyped your question. Your RHS doesn't make sense since you don't have \(n\) anywhere.

Ohhh my bad!! Sorry...
Well- I am stuck on Step 3 of both of these

9+14+19+...+(5n+4)= 5n^2/2+13n/2 for all n>=1

and

-4+8-16...-4(-2)^(n-1) = 4((-2)^n - 1)/3 for all n>= 1

dont know if that works....
thanks ;D

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #3269 on: February 13, 2018, 10:20:47 pm »
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Ohhh my bad!! Sorry...
Well- I am stuck on Step 3 of both of these

9+14+19+...+(5n+4)= 5n^2/2+13n/2 for all n>=1

and

-4+8-16...-4(-2)^(n-1) = 4((-2)^n - 1)/3 for all n>= 1

dont know if that works....
thanks ;D


Making the transition from line 2 to line 3 a bit clearer..
\begin{align*}\frac{5k^2}{2} + \frac{13k}{2} + 5k + 9 &= \frac{5k^2}{2} + 5k + \frac{5}{2} + \frac{13k}{2} + \frac{13}{2}\\ &= \frac{5}{2}(k^2+2k+1) + \frac{13}{2}(k+1)\end{align*}
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