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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2940 on: October 03, 2017, 01:47:35 pm »
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Regarding Mod A Essays (Intertextual perspective elective):
Is it okay to introduce the context of today in the conclusion of the essay? I've been told that I need to focus on what I have learnt specifically from the comparison of both texts, and the ideas of Metropolis and 1984 are especially relevant today e.g. through the actions of Trump in America. I suppose I'm just questioning to what extent you can take on a personal tone in the essay

Side note: is it okay to introduce 1984 for the first time as "1984" or do should we do so by writing it out fully "Nineteen Eighty-Four” and then just referring to it as 1984 after that
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2941 on: October 03, 2017, 01:55:02 pm »
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Regarding Mod A Essays (Intertextual perspective elective):
Is it okay to introduce the context of today in the conclusion of the essay? I've been told that I need to focus on what I have learnt specifically from the comparison of both texts, and the ideas of Metropolis and 1984 are especially relevant today e.g. through the actions of Trump in America. I suppose I'm just questioning to what extent you can take on a personal tone in the essay

Side note: is it okay to introduce 1984 for the first time as "1984" or do should we do so by writing it out fully "Nineteen Eighty-Four” and then just referring to it as 1984 after that


Hey, i went to a HSC holidays lecture.What i took out of it was that there should be 1-2 (max ) about context in each paragraph. This is just what i heard, you'll probably want other opinions as well. good luck

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2942 on: October 03, 2017, 01:58:18 pm »
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in robert frost's poem "the tuft of flowers", is nature a theme or motif? or both?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2943 on: October 03, 2017, 02:01:48 pm »
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For the last question in Section 1, Paper 1 (short answers) which usually involves analysing two different texts, if it asks specifically for just one text how should you structure the response? I was thinking a short introduction linking to the rubric, a paragraph with the techniques and effects and then a conclusion summarising the response.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2944 on: October 03, 2017, 02:24:01 pm »
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Hi! I just finished watching Emily's walk through on essay writing (a complete lifesaver, so thank you!) and I decided to give a go at writing an integrated Mod A paragraph for the first time. I really think that this format could push my essays into higher marks, but I'm wondering for the paragraph below if I've included enough quotes/ textual analysis to sustain the argument?
(Also a quick dumb question, how do you reply to a reply on the forum? Thank in advance!)

Respective composer’s treatment of the individual desire for ideal love in their texts reveals how context affects its perpetuity. Fitzgerald comments on love’s inevitability in The Great Gatsby, using the first person narration of Nick Carraway to constantly input his own pragmatism, “[Disapproving] of [Gatsby] from beginning to end.” In this way, the audience remains in scrutiny of Gatsby’s naïve hope to achieve his individual desire; ideal love with Daisy. Fitzgerald thus criticises the nouveau-riche members of his own Roaring Twenties society- the ‘new-money’ elites that believe they can accomplish the American Dream through wealth and perseverance, but ultimately fail to do so. Fitzgerald’s disapproval of such ‘Gatsby-esque’ desire- seen through Nick’s description- falls in direct contrast to EBB’s persona, and their ability to achieve ideal love. EBB uses the Petrarchan sonnet form to embellish her Persona’s achievement of individual desire- the typically male form of love poetry. This adoption of a male voice of authority is further utilised in Sonnet Fourteen, where EBB’s imperative “Love me for love’s sake” positions her as having more command in the relationship than her recipient. EBB uses this sonnet to convey her desire for an ideal love that transcends beyond physical appearance. She uses direct speech to adopt her recipient’s voice, stating “I love her for her smile- her look- her way of Speaking gently”- then implying that this superficial desire “may be unwrought so”, thus condemning ideal love to not last. By adopting the patriarchal form and voice to explain how ideal based on appearance is ephemeral and not ideal, EBB thus subverts her context’s emphasis on women’s appearance over intelligence. Fitzgerald contrasts this notion with his own interpretation of individual desire through Gatsby’s emphasis on Daisy’s appearance. Falling in conjunction with EBB and her protagonist’s desire, Gatsby’s ongoing love for Daisy is sustained with an infatuation on her looks and voice. Gatsby states that Daisy’s voice was “full of money”, using this metaphor to reveal that his ‘ideal love’ for her is fundamentally associated with her wealth, and not her character. Fitzgerald makes this opinion his own with Nick’s initial description of Daisy’s “low thrilling voice” and “sad lovely face”- thus revealing that his expectations for women in the Jazz Age were to put appearance and wealth before intellectual authority. Daisy’s confirmation of this then eliminates ideal love’s possibility in Fitzgerald’s context, resulting in Gatsby’s inability to achieve his individual desire and contrasting to EBB’s treatment of desire as achievable by her own Persona.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2945 on: October 03, 2017, 02:33:29 pm »
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Hi!
(Also a quick dumb question, how do you reply to a reply on the forum? Thank in advance!)

There's a "Quote" hyperlink on the top right corner of each post; click and you'll be able to reply! :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2946 on: October 03, 2017, 06:12:23 pm »
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Hello
If there was a question on feminism in Mod A Metropolis and 1984, what main points would you address? I can’t really think of any strong ideas

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2947 on: October 03, 2017, 06:43:56 pm »
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Hi was wondering what technique I could use for this? "She was appalled by the rushing emptiness of the night, by the black foam-flecked water heaving beneath them…  "Let's turn on the radio. Quick!" "
 I want to say something along the lines of contrasting language but i don't know how to word it well. Thanks! :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2948 on: October 03, 2017, 07:37:34 pm »
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Hi was wondering what technique I could use for this? "She was appalled by the rushing emptiness of the night, by the black foam-flecked water heaving beneath them…  "Let's turn on the radio. Quick!" "
 I want to say something along the lines of contrasting language but i don't know how to word it well. Thanks! :)

Accumulative imagery, dialogue, ellipsis. Compound sentences juxtaposed by truncated ones?

Also can talk about how the sentences give a very different tone which is generated by the slow seeming pace of the first because of the complex sentence, and the abrupt change in the next one due to the exclamation

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2949 on: October 03, 2017, 08:08:31 pm »
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Accumulative imagery, dialogue, ellipsis. Compound sentences juxtaposed by truncated ones?

Also can talk about how the sentences give a very different tone which is generated by the slow seeming pace of the first because of the complex sentence, and the abrupt change in the next one due to the exclamation
thanks heaps!!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2950 on: October 03, 2017, 09:49:03 pm »
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Hi there, i have uploaded my English way of remembering all my evidence for each module and this seems like its working for me, just wondering if this is a good way to do it thanks.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2951 on: October 03, 2017, 11:23:05 pm »
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Hi guys,
Thank you so much for your helpful advice on ATAR Notes...   :D

I just wanted to ask, when you have prepared a generic essay(AOS) to fit most of your rubric points, how do you go about manipulating the essay to answer a specific questions.
Eg. If the questions was like.  ‘Most discoveries encompass rediscovering something that has been lost, forgotten or concealed.’ To what extent do you agree with this statement from your study?

How would you go about, trying to answer the question, when your prepared generic essay covers most of the rubric, yet the question is specifically relating to one section only..

Thank you so much in advance
 :D :D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2952 on: October 03, 2017, 11:27:52 pm »
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Hi guys,
Thank you so much for your helpful advice on ATAR Notes...   :D

I just wanted to ask, when you have prepared a generic essay(AOS) to fit most of your rubric points, how do you go about manipulating the essay to answer a specific questions.
Eg. If the questions was like.  ‘Most discoveries encompass rediscovering something that has been lost, forgotten or concealed.’ To what extent do you agree with this statement from your study?

How would you go about, trying to answer the question, when your prepared generic essay covers most of the rubric, yet the question is specifically relating to one section only..

Thank you so much in advance
 :D :D


You could always disagree with it and talk about how while many discoveries are about rediscovering things lost to us, there are plenty that are first time discoveries. Do you have any specific paragraphs from your essay you wish to alter to make it fit to the question?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2953 on: October 04, 2017, 07:36:44 am »
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***I posted this question before but think it may've accidentally been skipped. I've deleted it and am posting again***

Oh thanks so much!
I get what you mean about the 'seeming' but what I was trying to communicate was that it isn't actually real. I guess it works the same without it though. For my core text I'm exploring corruption within the text as a fictional theme, and fir my related text I'm attempting to argue how the composer in a way exercises absolute power over the viewer in his representation.
Here's the rest of my intro so far, Is it effective/clear or a bit confusing in terms of setting up a markers expectations for the remainder of the essay?

When representing the complex relationship between people and politics, the composer holds absolute power over their audience, making a portrayal of reality inherently corrupted by subjectivity. Barry Levinson embeds his concern regarding political corruption within the blackly humorous narrative of ‘Wag the Dog’, where he engages in direct dialogue with his audience to warn them of the reality of political corruption. Similarly, Michael Moore’s 2004 documentary ‘Fahrenheit 9/11’ represents the corruption, manipulation and distraction within the Bush administration before, during and after the events of 9/11. However in this inherently subjective representation of political corruption, Moore abuses his absolute power as a filmmaker, thus corrupting his argument absolutely.

Thanks!!

I like this introduction! I think the wording at the end, "corrupting his argument absolutely," seems a bit off, but I think it definitely sets up the essay effectively! :)

Hi! I just finished watching Emily's walk through on essay writing (a complete lifesaver, so thank you!) and I decided to give a go at writing an integrated Mod A paragraph for the first time. I really think that this format could push my essays into higher marks, but I'm wondering for the paragraph below if I've included enough quotes/ textual analysis to sustain the argument?
(Also a quick dumb question, how do you reply to a reply on the forum? Thank in advance!)

Respective composer’s treatment of the individual desire for ideal love in their texts reveals how context affects its perpetuity. Fitzgerald comments on love’s inevitability in The Great Gatsby, using the first person narration of Nick Carraway to constantly input his own pragmatism, “[Disapproving] of [Gatsby] from beginning to end.” In this way, the audience remains in scrutiny of Gatsby’s naïve hope to achieve his individual desire; ideal love with Daisy. Fitzgerald thus criticises the nouveau-riche members of his own Roaring Twenties society- the ‘new-money’ elites that believe they can accomplish the American Dream through wealth and perseverance, but ultimately fail to do so. Fitzgerald’s disapproval of such ‘Gatsby-esque’ desire- seen through Nick’s description- falls in direct contrast to EBB’s persona, and their ability to achieve ideal love. EBB uses the Petrarchan sonnet form to embellish her Persona’s achievement of individual desire- the typically male form of love poetry. This adoption of a male voice of authority is further utilised in Sonnet Fourteen, where EBB’s imperative “Love me for love’s sake” positions her as having more command in the relationship than her recipient. EBB uses this sonnet to convey her desire for an ideal love that transcends beyond physical appearance. She uses direct speech to adopt her recipient’s voice, stating “I love her for her smile- her look- her way of Speaking gently”- then implying that this superficial desire “may be unwrought so”, thus condemning ideal love to not last. By adopting the patriarchal form and voice to explain how ideal based on appearance is ephemeral and not ideal, EBB thus subverts her context’s emphasis on women’s appearance over intelligence. Fitzgerald contrasts this notion with his own interpretation of individual desire through Gatsby’s emphasis on Daisy’s appearance. Falling in conjunction with EBB and her protagonist’s desire, Gatsby’s ongoing love for Daisy is sustained with an infatuation on her looks and voice. Gatsby states that Daisy’s voice was “full of money”, using this metaphor to reveal that his ‘ideal love’ for her is fundamentally associated with her wealth, and not her character. Fitzgerald makes this opinion his own with Nick’s initial description of Daisy’s “low thrilling voice” and “sad lovely face”- thus revealing that his expectations for women in the Jazz Age were to put appearance and wealth before intellectual authority. Daisy’s confirmation of this then eliminates ideal love’s possibility in Fitzgerald’s context, resulting in Gatsby’s inability to achieve his individual desire and contrasting to EBB’s treatment of desire as achievable by her own Persona.

I think you've done a great job with this! Definitely around as many quotes/techniques as you'd want, just be careful that you are doing the right things with them. There's some bits where you slip a bit into retell, just describing the characters actions and what we learn about them. Be sure to link to the conceptual basis of your paragraph at all times, and don't focus on things that the characters say and do. It should be sentences like this:

The composer uses TECHNIQUE in QUOTE to represent ____________ to the audience.

Not sentences like this:

Gatsby says QUOTE which has TECHNIQUE to show us _____________ about Daisy.

See how it has the same pieces, but it is less analytical? If you adjust your style just a tad I think you'll be sweet - Good work :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2954 on: October 04, 2017, 07:44:54 am »
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If we have three texts to talk about (speeches or poetry), does the distribution have to be 1/3 each or could we do an idea for Text A and B, anotherfor text A and C

You'd want fairly even distribution but you can definitely favour a specific poem/speech if you want to do that - It's all ultimately your 'prescribed text' so it shouldn't matter too much :)

Hi, I was wondering for AOS creatives, when is the most appropriate time to put the discovery ?? I know that it obviously depends on the plot but yehhh :(( I'm still not completely sure

I suppose you sort of have two options - You could have the Discovery at the start and focus on the impacts of that Discovery on your protagonist. Or, you could have the build up to the Discovery and have that occur right at the end, focusing instead on the journey. Both work well, I think it definitely depends on the themes/messages you are trying to convey :)

Hey guys,
I was just wondering for creative writing can you address the reader?  ( similar to the beginning of the book thief)
Im trying to come up with a back up idea for a story, i have a good idea about God/ Religion etc.
I was thinking i could be interesting to write it in this format?
Any ideas , thanks

You can absolutely do that - Cool way to stand out from the crowd ;D

Regarding Mod A Essays (Intertextual perspective elective):
Is it okay to introduce the context of today in the conclusion of the essay? I've been told that I need to focus on what I have learnt specifically from the comparison of both texts, and the ideas of Metropolis and 1984 are especially relevant today e.g. through the actions of Trump in America. I suppose I'm just questioning to what extent you can take on a personal tone in the essay

Side note: is it okay to introduce 1984 for the first time as "1984" or do should we do so by writing it out fully "Nineteen Eighty-Four” and then just referring to it as 1984 after that

You don't want to introduce anything new in the conclusion, nor do you want to adopt anything but an academic tone in the essay. But, contemporary context is definitely worthy of inclusion somewhere (you could argue that the ideas in 1984, for example, resonate even more strongly with a contemporary society that actually sees elements of it in their day to day lives) :)

You should use the full title at least once :)

For the last question in Section 1, Paper 1 (short answers) which usually involves analysing two different texts, if it asks specifically for just one text how should you structure the response? I was thinking a short introduction linking to the rubric, a paragraph with the techniques and effects and then a conclusion summarising the response.

That could be one way! I would personally do two body paragraphs, each covering one theme in the text you have been allocated/chosen. Introductions/conclusions, from what I've seen, generally aren't necessary in that last question ;D