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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #450 on: August 03, 2016, 06:37:55 am »
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Hey conic!  ;D Just to clarify, you are doing Year 11 Yearlies, so your teacher would have crafted your electives for you. Are they based around Module A and Module B for the HSC Course?

Well the AOS is Physical journey, Module A in a comparative study of texts and contexts (i.e. Bend it like beckham and looking for alibrandi) and Module B is Critical study of texts (Macbeth)

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« Reply #451 on: August 03, 2016, 08:49:30 am »
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Hey conic!  ;D Just to clarify, you are doing Year 11 Yearlies, so your teacher would have crafted your electives for you. Are they based around Module A and Module B for the HSC Course?
They usually are right?

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« Reply #452 on: August 03, 2016, 08:54:11 am »
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They usually are right?
Well for my Prelim course, I had to due a similar thing (emma/ clueless and othello) for modules a and b. The aos was set to belonging so i did poetry for that one.

Just my own personal opinion from experience :D

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« Reply #453 on: August 03, 2016, 08:54:58 am »
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Well for my Prelim course, I had to due a similar thing (emma/ clueless and othello) for modules a and b. The aos was set to belonging so i did poetry for that one.

Just my own personal opinion from experience :D
Yeah I'm pretty sure the main basis is the same as HSC course. Just different texts (and perhaps themes) usually

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« Reply #454 on: August 03, 2016, 10:56:17 am »
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Yeah I'm pretty sure the main basis is the same as HSC course. Just different texts (and perhaps themes) usually

Yep, usually similar, sometimes they throw a curveball just wanted to be sure ;D

So my english yearlies are coming up within approximately 3-5 weeks and I need to start preparing essays by next week (this week I'll need to reread and re-analyse my texts in order to ensure I am 100% familiar with them with my own "special analysis")

For the AOS, I have an idea of what I am going to talk about. For Module A, I was thinking of talking about historical, cultural and social contexts in my essay and have no idea of what else I need to talk about. Could someone please give me an idea of what I need to talk about?

For Module B, I've looked into my text but not so much my essay and I need to get a much broader understanding of what I'll need to talk about in my essay

Does anyone here have any ideas of what I should/need to talk about in my Module A and Module B essays?

Thanks

You can sum up the requirements of the essays in one sentence each:

Mod A: Compare how the same/similar ideas are explored in different contexts.
Mod B: Judge how effectively the composer crafts a text for their audience.

You're pretty spot on in Module A. You'll be examining key ideas within the texts (themes and the like) and how they have been explored in two different contexts for two different audiences. How are different techniques used to achieve similar ideas? Do the composers agree completely or vary slightly (and how is this evident, and why is it the case). These sorts of comparative questions, importantly, all based around concepts.

Module B is very evaluative. You are looking at textual integrity, how well the composer uses technique to create a cohesive text that portrays what it was meant to portray. Lots of judgement on your part; what has the composer done well? What was effective? WHY was it effective? All of this still in a very academic writing style, no "This was shit," obviously ;)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #455 on: August 03, 2016, 04:50:16 pm »
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Random thought: Can you use a quote multiple times in an essay? Like if it doubles up in two themes?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #456 on: August 03, 2016, 05:01:03 pm »
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Random thought: Can you use a quote multiple times in an essay? Like if it doubles up in two themes?

Using a quote twice is definitely not something against any kind of HSC rule, however depending on what it is/how long it is, its often better not to repeat yourself if you can avoid it, simply because you're trying to show the marker a really deep and rich knowledge of your text and you can often limit yourself by using the same example (and technical analysis) multiple times [obviously if you were to approach the analysis of the quote in a completely different way each time then it could totally work].

The aim is to make your themes strong enough that you should be able to find a multitude of kick ass quotes. HSC essays aren't particularly lengthy so every single quote/example matters!  :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #457 on: August 03, 2016, 05:40:31 pm »
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Random thought: Can you use a quote multiple times in an essay? Like if it doubles up in two themes?

Everything Sarah said I agree with, but I'll also suggest: Perhaps use the full quote the first time you need it, and the second time, just the exact phrase you need? I know that doesn't always work, but if it did that would be swell. On the whole, a variation of quotes is best, but as long as you don't embed the quote in a repetitive way, there's a chance that the marker won't even think twice!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #458 on: August 03, 2016, 06:03:35 pm »
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Hello!

I'm doing Auden for Mod C, and have an assessment coming up. I know the focus of the module is to look at the composer's use of language, medium, form etc. to analyse representations of political actions and the implications these actions may have on the lives of individuals and society. But I don't exactly know how to structure it most effectively, and how I should frame my response around this key focus.

Bearing in mind I am studying poems by W.H. Auden, are there any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #459 on: August 03, 2016, 09:08:10 pm »
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hey guys
i was wondering if you'd have any tips on how to best answer the question during an essay, and how to show the marker proper understanding of the question and a authentic response to the question rather than just inserting the key words from the question into your thesis.
thanks so much

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #460 on: August 03, 2016, 09:34:50 pm »
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hey guys
i was wondering if you'd have any tips on how to best answer the question during an essay, and how to show the marker proper understanding of the question and a authentic response to the question rather than just inserting the key words from the question into your thesis.
thanks so much

My best suggestions here are:

1. Have a prepared or semi prepared thesis, idea, concept, etc, of your texts and what you want to talk about. This way, when the question is presented, you infuse your understanding of the question with your prior understanding of the texts. So this adds another level. For example, if my texts are heavily characterised by the transformative nature of discovery, I'm going to bring that to the table. When the essay question asks me to talk about the planned nature of a discovery, I'm going to infuse the planned nature of a discovery with the way it transforms people or ideas. So I'm not just flat out agreeing, but I'm bringing something new to the table.

2. Synonyms. To an extent... Basically I think sometimes students try so hard to avoid sounding repetitious that they stray from the question. If you find synonyms easy to use, then I'd make sure that you are topping and tailing (starting and finishing) a paragraph with the words of the question, but filtering your paragraph's meat (that sounds very carnivorous, I basically just mean the middle sentences lol) with synonyms to change it up. You want to be original, but you don't want the marker to be wondering when you are going to tie it back in!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #461 on: August 03, 2016, 09:39:30 pm »
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Hello!

I'm doing Auden for Mod C, and have an assessment coming up. I know the focus of the module is to look at the composer's use of language, medium, form etc. to analyse representations of political actions and the implications these actions may have on the lives of individuals and society. But I don't exactly know how to structure it most effectively, and how I should frame my response around this key focus.

Bearing in mind I am studying poems by W.H. Auden, are there any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!!

Hey there! Check out these two structures.

This first one is a people and politics structure.
The second one is a people and landscapes structure, but might still be useful for you.

Let me know what you think of these. The people and landscapes one follows a similar structure to area of study, where you have a main thesis, with little branches to characterise each paragraph.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #462 on: August 04, 2016, 02:37:18 pm »
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Hi,
I just had a question regarding modality in essays.

Some teachers that I've talked to over the last few weeks have said to use high modal language to demonstrate my argument e.g. "discovery causes xyz"

However, other teachers prefer softer modality to avoid making unprovable assumptions or generalisations that the marker disagrees with e.g. "discovery may cause xyz"

What are your thoughts on this matter? I'm not sure which one to use as I have no way of knowing which teacher will mark what section.
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« Reply #463 on: August 04, 2016, 03:24:27 pm »
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Hi,
I just had a question regarding modality in essays.

Some teachers that I've talked to over the last few weeks have said to use high modal language to demonstrate my argument e.g. "discovery causes xyz"

However, other teachers prefer softer modality to avoid making unprovable assumptions or generalisations that the marker disagrees with e.g. "discovery may cause xyz"

What are your thoughts on this matter? I'm not sure which one to use as I have no way of knowing which teacher will mark what section.

For discovery and Module C, I'm all about that low modality life. My reason for this is, you are making a statement about a concept (discovery, people and landscapes, or people and politics). And then you're saying that the statement is true according to the texts. You're not saying the statement is true of life in general. You can't truthfully say, "Discoveries are intensely meaningful" because sometimes they simply aren't. And, you might have one text that proves that statement, and another that proves a variation. So, I prefer the lower modality because it means you have scope for a "discussion" style of argument where you can flick between the texts and look at how they gel with the question.

As for Module A, I didn't intentionally approach it in a high modality way, but I was speaking of fact. When you discuss context, you are speaking factually. So, for Module A it is most likely that you'll sit in a higher modality seat because you're making connections between two periods and two texts, not so much making a comment on a concept of humanity like AOS and Mod C.
Mod B again is different. You can structure this essay a bunch of ways. I tended to avoid the first person narrator and opt for the approach of, "A contemporary audience may relate to the work of..." So this automatically falls into a low modality. But if you are espousing a first person narrator, then it might be more natural to speak in the higher modality.

Essentially, I think that Mod C and AOS are most suited to a low modality. Mod A is most suited to a higher modality. Mod B can be a combination. Neither are incorrect or correct, but rather, what suits your purpose? What conveys your point the strongest? In what tone do you sound most articulate? Asking these questions is how I decided what modality to use for each essay :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #464 on: August 04, 2016, 03:42:45 pm »
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For discovery and Module C, I'm all about that low modality life. My reason for this is, you are making a statement about a concept (discovery, people and landscapes, or people and politics). And then you're saying that the statement is true according to the texts. You're not saying the statement is true of life in general. You can't truthfully say, "Discoveries are intensely meaningful" because sometimes they simply aren't. And, you might have one text that proves that statement, and another that proves a variation. So, I prefer the lower modality because it means you have scope for a "discussion" style of argument where you can flick between the texts and look at how they gel with the question.

As for Module A, I didn't intentionally approach it in a high modality way, but I was speaking of fact. When you discuss context, you are speaking factually. So, for Module A it is most likely that you'll sit in a higher modality seat because you're making connections between two periods and two texts, not so much making a comment on a concept of humanity like AOS and Mod C.
Mod B again is different. You can structure this essay a bunch of ways. I tended to avoid the first person narrator and opt for the approach of, "A contemporary audience may relate to the work of..." So this automatically falls into a low modality. But if you are espousing a first person narrator, then it might be more natural to speak in the higher modality.

Essentially, I think that Mod C and AOS are most suited to a low modality. Mod A is most suited to a higher modality. Mod B can be a combination. Neither are incorrect or correct, but rather, what suits your purpose? What conveys your point the strongest? In what tone do you sound most articulate? Asking these questions is how I decided what modality to use for each essay :)

I'll disagree with Elyse on this one, and let me explain why ;D

I agree that AoS is about making a specific statement in light of your study of the texts. It won't be true in all situations. However, I still think that your ideas need to be stated emphatically. I mean, phrases such as "______ may induce _______." are definitely cool, but I still prefer high modality language for all my essays. In my opinion, it just sounds more sure. Using low modality excessively can come across as unconfident, again, in my opinion ;D if you do want to use it, walk the line carefully and make sure you still come across as confident as what you are writing.

That said, whichever you choose, definitely employ high modality language in your analysis. Don't do this:

The composer's use of powerful visual imagery may invoke sympathy in responders.

That may kills your momentum dead, because it shows that you aren't sure of the arguments you are making.

So, while I agree that it's a bit of a matter of preference for conceptual statements about discovery (although I still always prefer high modality), definitely employ high modality in your analysis. While you might want room to move conceptually, don't leave room to move analytically  ;D