English Advanced Question Thread

[Thebarman]

Hey guys, I'm just wondering, is a conclusion of around 50 words enough? or is it too short?

Hey Ellipse, a conclusion is simply a reiteration of what you have been discussing throughout the entire essay. You're simply saying "this was my thesis, these is what I discussed in my body paragraphs, and these texts show this." In that case, 50 words should be enough. You don't get any extra marks for how short or detailed it is. It's only there to nicely tie up your overall essay. A marker will not penalise you if your conclusion is too short.
Hope this helped

[elysepopplewell]

Hey guys, I'm just wondering, is a conclusion of around 50 words enough? or is it too short?

Just chiming in...Emily Tyrell got 1st in the state for Eng Adv last year and she writes reallllly short conclusions! Often a sentence or two. My conclusions were always about 4 sentences, if not five, and I got a band 6 (but not a state rank  )

[sudodds]

Yeah!! That's the scene I was referring to Thanks heaps!

Can you please clarify what you meant when you said this??
" It is within this scene that the characters are confronted with the fragility and superficial nature of their place within the social order, which is only further established throughout the rest of the play"

Sorry for the late reply!
Antonio and Alonso are both leaders of their respective nations, however throughout the Tempest they are confronted with the reality that these are just artificial titles. Nature doesn't distinguish between them or any other man just because they have a crown on their head, she treats them all the same. Thus they are confronted with the uncomfortable and harsh discovery that their power is actually meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Does this make sense? Let me know if you need further clarification, as this is tricky stuff haha 

[ajajaj]

Sorry for the late reply!
Antonio and Alonso are both leaders of their respective nations, however throughout the Tempest they are confronted with the reality that these are just artificial titles. Nature doesn't distinguish between them or any other man just because they have a crown on their head, she treats them all the same. Thus they are confronted with the uncomfortable and harsh discovery that their power is actually meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Does this make sense? Let me know if you need further clarification, as this is tricky stuff haha 

Don't worry, it wasn't late at all! I get it now
Another question - how is it indicated in Act 5 that Prospero rediscovers his humanity? The scene is a bit lengthy so I'm unsure what exactly is significant.
Thank you again!

[hanaacdr]

hi
do you mark creatives here?

[elysepopplewell]

hi
do you mark creatives here?

Right over here we do!

[sudodds]

Don't worry, it wasn't late at all! I get it now
Another question - how is it indicated in Act 5 that Prospero rediscovers his humanity? The scene is a bit lengthy so I'm unsure what exactly is significant.
Thank you again!

I don't have the text with me, but I'm gonna assume this is the betrothal masque scene that you are talking about? This is definitely a tricky section haha, took me forever to figure out, so forgive me if my explanation seems a bit confusing, because well, this shit is hahaha.

Basically, the betrothal masque glorifies marriage as both the foundation of society and as part of the natural order, however the perfection of the masque does not exist, and is instead an “insubstantial pageant” of Prospero’s power. Both the audience and Prospero know that what he has conjured up isn't real. Nevertheless, the message of the masque still resonates with both the audience and Prospero, who exhibit a mutual understanding that the creative re-enactment leads to transformative discoveries. Through the masque, Prospero realises that there are more important things in life other than revenge, i.e. his Daughters love of Ferdinand, and he understands that his desire for revenge could potentially limit this loves ability to flourish and thrive (basically if I am constantly tormenting my daughters boyfriends dad, maybe the relationship might go a bit sour...?  )This allows Prospero to finally relinquish this all consuming hatred and anger and thus can now fully reveal to the audience his true nature, no longer inhibited but his desire for revenge

Hope this makes sense haha

[jenna.ridgway]

Hi there,
As well as writing an essay, this term I am required to answer a series (two 3 mark and one 6 mark) of unseen questions. We have been given the texts that we are to write about (Dream Big by Dan Elijah G. Fajardo, The Land of Dreams by William Blake and an extract from Alice's Adventurers in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll).
I think I will be okay with the 3 markers, but the 6 marker worries me. Assuming the question will ask us to refer to two texts, my teacher has suggested that we do: an intro, a paragraph on one text, a comparison on both texts, and finally a paragraph on the second text. The questions will relate somehow to discovery.
Since I am not very good at thinking on the spot quickly in exams, do you guys have any tips for short answer questions that could help me out?
Thanks,
Jenna.

[Piccolo]

Hey there

I just had a question regarding finding techniques within a text. It seems that most of the quotes that I can find which are applicable to what I'm doing never seem to have a technique to go with them. I understand that not every single quote must have a technique, but the large majority of mine seem to have nothing! Is there anything you can suggest that might assist in finding techniques in quotes, or quote finding etc?

Thanks!

[ajajaj]

I don't have the text with me, but I'm gonna assume this is the betrothal masque scene that you are talking about? This is definitely a tricky section haha, took me forever to figure out, so forgive me if my explanation seems a bit confusing, because well, this shit is hahaha.

Basically, the betrothal masque glorifies marriage as both the foundation of society and as part of the natural order, however the perfection of the masque does not exist, and is instead an “insubstantial pageant” of Prospero’s power. Both the audience and Prospero know that what he has conjured up isn't real. Nevertheless, the message of the masque still resonates with both the audience and Prospero, who exhibit a mutual understanding that the creative re-enactment leads to transformative discoveries. Through the masque, Prospero realises that there are more important things in life other than revenge, i.e. his Daughters love of Ferdinand, and he understands that his desire for revenge could potentially limit this loves ability to flourish and thrive (basically if I am constantly tormenting my daughters boyfriends dad, maybe the relationship might go a bit sour...?  )This allows Prospero to finally relinquish this all consuming hatred and anger and thus can now fully reveal to the audience his true nature, no longer inhibited but his desire for revenge

Hope this makes sense haha

Oh the marriage / masque is Act 4 I'm sure this will help nonetheless as I needed reference from other scenes anyway! Thank you so much for all your help

[sudodds]

Oh the marriage / masque is Act 4 I'm sure this will help nonetheless as I needed reference from other scenes anyway! Thank you so much for all your help

Ah okay haha, was Act 5 the forgiveness scene? If not, if you could give me a basic outline of what happens I'll see if I can remember and write up an explanation 😊

[legorgo18]

Hey can someone please check the following sentences (fixed them up, apparently they grammatically made no sense before)

Please tell me if they make sense now
1) leading to the conclusion of Yeats’ ineffectiveness in his portrayal of uncertainty
2) leaving critical audiences wonder Yeats’ effectiveness in his portrayal of uncertainty
3) In addition, their ability to “paddle in the cold companionable streams” oxymoronically references Yeats’ unrequited love for Gonne, as metaphorically stated in ‘When You Are Old’ where he “loved the pilgrim soul” in Gonne, accentuating the desire for immortality to love her through changing times
4) This is similarly portrayed in ‘The Second Coming’ where the notion of change is elucidated in the “widening gyre”, suggesting the declination and imperfection of the swans through the transcendence of time
5) This is coupled with the odd number of “fifty-nine”, suggesting the distance between the mortal and the immortal as swans mate eternally. This is contrasted against the persona’s “heart which is sore now”, the monosyllabic words create a monotonous, dreary tone, reinforced by the diction “now”, reiterating the persona’s current state of decline

Thank you!

[katnisschung]

hi this is a broad ended question for aos discovery
i'm finding when i'm writing my essays i'm ending up retelling a lot of the plot..
i do this because i find that I have to establish what the persona's original views
to show their change... (i've given an example in quite rudimentary terms to give u an idea of what i mean)

e.g. Discovery is confronting, yet empowering
--> talked about how discoveries challenge an individual's inherent world views
that lead to radically new views. Such process is fulfilling as it uncovers the individual's true values
yet confronting as central to the human condition is a hatred towards the admittance of a flawed perspective...
(yas its a work in progress  )

pt 1) Prospero discovers forgiveness to be more fulfilling than revenge
--> initial views of obsession for revenge (i need to establish what his initial views are in order to show what the change is)
challenged by Ariel & anticlimatic nature of play (when he does reach fulfillment of revenge, realities he is not satisfied)
etc rest of pt

how can i avoid this?

[Mary_a]

Hey Guys,

In an English Advanced Exam how many words.pages do you suggest for the essay/creative?

Thanks,

Mary x

[katnisschung]

hey hey!
whatever you feel comfortable with writing in 40 minutes
i find that 900-1200 is a good guide (this is what most people are able to achieve)
anything more or less than that often means you're not able to flesh out your ideas
or you're waffling way to much.

you've probably a heap of assessments from year 11 so maybe judge which assessments
u did well in and approx. how many words u wrote in those.

personally i know i feel comfortable writing around the 1000+ mark