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katie,rinos

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2655 on: August 06, 2017, 06:27:46 pm »
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Hey guys,
With my discovery essay how should I link my related text back to my prescribed?
My essay is non-integrated at the moment. My prescribed texts are Frost's poetry and my related is The Book Thief.
Thanks so much!!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2656 on: August 06, 2017, 09:23:55 pm »
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having a crisis right now with paper 2 tomorrow and maths ext 1 and haven't started memorising anything. any words of advice for quick memorising techniques or should i just accept my fated band 2?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2657 on: August 06, 2017, 10:08:10 pm »
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having a crisis right now with paper 2 tomorrow and maths ext 1 and haven't started memorising anything. any words of advice for quick memorising techniques or should i just accept my fated band 2?
Ah, that's very unfortunate, but never give up!! :)
I definitely recommend creating a mindmap if you're a visual learner. From there, place each theme in its own bubble and write a brief description about what the theme is about. Draw connections between each theme by drawing arrows between each theme. In this way, you've created a visually summarised bank of possible themes, with techniques and quotes.

If the quote is too long, use ellipses to denote that there is more to the quote. In this way, you don't need to write the full quote. It saves time and energy that you otherwise would have wasted.

Good luck with your trial exams tomorrow!! :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2658 on: August 06, 2017, 10:58:55 pm »
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having a crisis right now with paper 2 tomorrow and maths ext 1 and haven't started memorising anything. any words of advice for quick memorising techniques or should i just accept my fated band 2?

Welcome to the forums dolly! Check out this guide written by Elyse, it details where you should be memorising most detail and where you can skimp a little bit! It might be useful ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2659 on: August 07, 2017, 03:04:01 pm »
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‘A fundamental connection between these texts is conveyed through characters who struggle to make sense of the world they live in. This struggle inevitably tests their humanity’.
To what extent is this true of the prescribed texts set for study?

Could anyone propose a thesis or a plan of attack of how to do this question for Richard III?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2660 on: August 07, 2017, 04:14:02 pm »
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Hey guys,
I feel like I've complained a lot about Art of Travel.
But, i'm not really sure what quotes to memorise from it for my exam. If anyone does Art of Travel and could help with quotes and how to write the essay that would help so much!
And Hamlet as well, if possible.
Thanks heaps :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2661 on: August 07, 2017, 09:13:31 pm »
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Hi :)

I have my English trials in a couple days and am not that prepared.
What are some tips to bullshitting your way through the essays whilst looking like you know what you're talking about?
I remember Jamon talking about this at a lecture. :P
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2662 on: August 07, 2017, 09:48:58 pm »
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‘A fundamental connection between these texts is conveyed through characters who struggle to make sense of the world they live in. This struggle inevitably tests their humanity’.
To what extent is this true of the prescribed texts set for study?

Could anyone propose a thesis or a plan of attack of how to do this question for Richard III?

Hey I don't do Richard III but I can provide you with ideas about what I would write for my Mod A texts Julius Caesar and The Prince.
For this sort of question, it definitely plays towards Julius Caesar more in my place. For instance, the whole play documents Brutus' struggle to make sense of the world in which he lives (a world where he feels an intense loyalty to Rome but also towards his friend yet dangerously ambitious friend Caesar). Therefore, through the use of soliloquies, Shakespeare reflects Brutus' internal conflict on his own personal morality regarding whether to remain faithful to Caesar or to the conspirators and what he believes may be best for the Roman people. I'm not sure about the story line of Richard III but if there are soliloquies in it they are perfect as they give the audience an insight into the characters' minds and internal struggles with morality (tests their humanity). So if Richard III is similar in some guy rising to power as a result of losing his own morals, see if there are any examples within the play of soliloquies especially which document how this struggle between ambition and morality is portrayed! Hope that helps and hopefully someone who has studied Richard III can give a more detailed explanation soon :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2663 on: August 08, 2017, 11:41:29 am »
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Hey there,

I don't study either of those texts, but i'll give your first question a shot - human frailty refers to the vulnerability but also importance of people and their experiences. Like preserving human nature because it is unique and valuable. That's how I take it, just reading a little bit further than the literal connotations of frailty and delving more into what all texts seek to decipher - the human condition.

Hope that helped :)


Hey I don't do Richard III but I can provide you with ideas about what I would write for my Mod A texts Julius Caesar and The Prince.
For this sort of question, it definitely plays towards Julius Caesar more in my place. For instance, the whole play documents Brutus' struggle to make sense of the world in which he lives (a world where he feels an intense loyalty to Rome but also towards his friend yet dangerously ambitious friend Caesar). Therefore, through the use of soliloquies, Shakespeare reflects Brutus' internal conflict on his own personal morality regarding whether to remain faithful to Caesar or to the conspirators and what he believes may be best for the Roman people. I'm not sure about the story line of Richard III but if there are soliloquies in it they are perfect as they give the audience an insight into the characters' minds and internal struggles with morality (tests their humanity). So if Richard III is similar in some guy rising to power as a result of losing his own morals, see if there are any examples within the play of soliloquies especially which document how this struggle between ambition and morality is portrayed! Hope that helps and hopefully someone who has studied Richard III can give a more detailed explanation soon :)

Thank you so much! This really helped me for my exam :)and I'm so glad it's over!


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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2664 on: August 08, 2017, 07:10:11 pm »
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What date will the marking threads be re-opened?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2665 on: August 08, 2017, 08:51:33 pm »
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What date will the marking threads be re-opened?
They opened the other day! :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2666 on: August 08, 2017, 09:56:06 pm »
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Hi!! Just wondering - should I provide a brief description of my related text in the intro / first paragraph of related text analysis? My teacher suggests this because the marker may not have read the related and as such might need some context, but this seems a bit off to me (I've never ever been told to do this before - it seems a bit weird)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2667 on: August 08, 2017, 10:06:12 pm »
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Hi!! Just wondering - should I provide a brief description of my related text in the intro / first paragraph of related text analysis? My teacher suggests this because the marker may not have read the related and as such might need some context, but this seems a bit off to me (I've never ever been told to do this before - it seems a bit weird)

I personally didn't because you want to use as much of your space as possible for exploring the main issues of the question (eg. if discovery it's connection to discovery) and not describing the plot. The marker will more than likely get a sense of text anyway by your analysis. For instance, this is the opening sentences to my para on Koch's the boys in the island for discovery - Similarly, in Cristopher Koch’s Boys in the Island the introspective Francis Cullen undergoes a transformative understanding of his connection to place, rediscovering the pleasures of his simple life in the island of Tasmania. Koch’s novel follows the development of a group of young boys who travel from the island of innocence to the wildness of the Mainland. This process, however, is confronting in the symbolic loss of two of Francis’ closest friends, whose deaths prompt him to return to the place of his childhood much like Gray does in ‘Journey, The North Coast’, eventually resulting in a deeper and more fulfilling understanding of his own identity. So I covered the basis of the plot but disguised it within the ideas of the rubric eg. confronting links to discoveries can be confronting/challenge, i linked to the rubric point it can lead to a greater understanding of self through "a more fulfilling understanding of his own identity" etc. hope that helps!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2668 on: August 08, 2017, 10:33:12 pm »
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I personally didn't because you want to use as much of your space as possible for exploring the main issues of the question (eg. if discovery it's connection to discovery) and not describing the plot. The marker will more than likely get a sense of text anyway by your analysis. For instance, this is the opening sentences to my para on Koch's the boys in the island for discovery - Similarly, in Cristopher Koch’s Boys in the Island the introspective Francis Cullen undergoes a transformative understanding of his connection to place, rediscovering the pleasures of his simple life in the island of Tasmania. Koch’s novel follows the development of a group of young boys who travel from the island of innocence to the wildness of the Mainland. This process, however, is confronting in the symbolic loss of two of Francis’ closest friends, whose deaths prompt him to return to the place of his childhood much like Gray does in ‘Journey, The North Coast’, eventually resulting in a deeper and more fulfilling understanding of his own identity. So I covered the basis of the plot but disguised it within the ideas of the rubric eg. confronting links to discoveries can be confronting/challenge, i linked to the rubric point it can lead to a greater understanding of self through "a more fulfilling understanding of his own identity" etc. hope that helps!

Thanks sooooo much for the quick + helpful reply, I'm def gonna use that clever trick :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2669 on: August 08, 2017, 11:08:43 pm »
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Hi :)

I have my English trials in a couple days and am not that prepared.
What are some tips to bullshitting your way through the essays whilst looking like you know what you're talking about?
I remember Jamon talking about this at a lecture. :P

Hey! I don't really recall talking about bullshitting through an essay in any thorough/meaningful way, to really do well you definitely need to know your stuff ;)

That said, definitely ways to stumble your way through a little. Just make sure you've got quotes and techniques, any essay with those two things is way more likely to do well. This guide could also be worth a read!