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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3060 on: October 13, 2017, 01:43:29 pm »
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Hi,
In module B I'm doing T.S Eliot's Poetry. I was just wondering if the question asks for us to refer to three poems, should my structure be:

Theme 1:
-poem 1
-poem 2
-poem 3

then

Theme 2:
-poem 1
-poem 2
-poem 3


OR

Theme 1:
-poem 1
-poem 2

then

Theme 2:
-poem 1
-poem 3

or any other suggestions? As if I try to do all three for both themes, I feel I will have to condense my analysis a lot and this will result in a superficial analysis?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3061 on: October 13, 2017, 02:06:44 pm »
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Hi,
For AOS my prescribed text is The Tempest and I have a quote in which I want to use but can't find a technique for it.
"Your tale, sir, could cure deafness"
Context wise the character Miranda is listening to Prospero and he keeps asking her if she is listening which she replies "Sir, most heedfully." then again "o good sir I do" then ending with her final reply "Your tale, sir, could cure deafness".
Could I say its a motif? I'm not sure.

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I'd be more inclined to talk about the sarcasm and irony in someone talking a lot being a cure for deafness!

Hello! I have a quick question on integrated paragraphs- would it benefit to use this scaffold on a Mod C essay as well as a Mod A one? Thanks in advance!

Integrated essays are a really great way of showing cohesion in your ideas and texts in any essay. I'm not sure what you mean about a specific scaffold, though. There's lots of ways of integrating - through texts, through ideas, or through textual features. It is my belief that integrated essays are the best way to write an essay - because without integration you aren't showing cohesion, which is part of the marking criteria! :)

There was a question and it was just like "how has considering different interpretations of speeches helped your understanding of them"
i think they were talking about how different people could value different parts of them, apply different readings etc

That sounds right to me - you'd be looking at the way different parts of the speeches will stand out to different people of different standpoints and experiences :)

hey :)
 for Mod C: people and landscapes, if the question does not specify to discuss a particular landscape (real, remembered or imagined) but rather just says 'landscapes' do we have to talk about all three? or could we just pick maybe 2 in our introduction to talk about. I've got conflicting information on this from teachers so i'm really confused
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I think picking two sounds like a good idea. The rubric doesn't require you to talk about them ALL at once - just the same way that they'll pick one aspect of discovery for AOS, and you won't be expected to talk about all types of discovery. So just two if it suits you would be fine! :)

For Mod C People and Politics I'm doing Brave New World and the film snowpiercer.

The rubric asks us to talk about how the medium of the text affects meaning but how exactly would I do that in my essay?

How does the fact that BNW is a novel or that Snowpiercer is a film add/affect the meaning?

You'd talk about the specific aspects of the medium that explore it in a way specific to the medium. So for film, it allows sound, visuals, and plot to come together for a very particular sensory experience, thus affecting meaning. In a novel, the written techniques are constructed in a particular way so as to inspire meaning :)

Hi there,
For AOS,
I mainly focus on one rubric point in my thesis, but bring in some others in the beginning of each topic sentence for my body paragraphs. Do you recommend I add another reference to a rubric point in my thesis to create greater depth, or is just the one okay?
My intro is: "By changing one’s attitude, individuals have the power to change the future. Thus, the transformative impact of discovery is evident through an individual’s willingness to speculate on their previously held values and beliefs. In William Shakespeare’s play The Tempest, Shakespeare highlights the importance of the feminine voice, challenging his audience to consider how values of compassion, empathy and forgiveness are crucial in creating a more optimistic future. Likewise, in her speech Attitude, Margaret Atwood empowers her audience to recognise the ability they have to change the world for the better, thus creating more dimensional self-perceptions. ((I'll add an ending sentence that links to the question))"

It doesn't have to be in your original thesis statement (the first sentence or two) but can in fact be throughout your introduction all together. So I'd personally go for the approach of looking at it in your introduction a bit more, specifically when introducing the two texts. You've written great things, but if there's a specific aspect of discovery that comes in to play with those texts that you'll explore later, I'd sew the seed for them now so the marker knows to expect this throughout your response and can easily look for the cohesion of your ideas. Great intro, in my opinion!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3062 on: October 13, 2017, 02:08:09 pm »
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Hi there,

I'm not Elyse or Emily; but from the lecture (i'm trying to remember here) - I think they meant that you use the time when the examiner asks you to look through the book and check each page number (you have to look through the whole paper to check you have every unseen text and every question). Then in this time when you check the last few pages (where the essay questions are) have a really quick read so you can start to formulate answers in the reading time. Pretty sure this is the pre-reading time --> someone feel free to correct me though :D

Sorry about waiting so long for a response! Hope this helps you smash Paper 1!!

Exactly what we meant! Thanks Isaac (love your work) :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3063 on: October 13, 2017, 02:44:44 pm »
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Hi Everyone!

I just wanted to say a huge: GOOD LUCK for the HSC exams.
Please, continue to use these threads to ask question and answer other student's questions too.
I've got 20 Personal Messages Right now (if you're one of them: getting to the PMs right now!) and I'm trying not to answer anyone too rushed because that's just not helpful. So hang tight, please keep using this thread, I love seeing students wanting to make the most of these last few days to improve their responses. All power to you!

Jamon and I are nearly finished the marking. We had to lock the boards so we can focus on all of these last minute questions over the weekend so you feel ready to go for Monday :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3064 on: October 13, 2017, 03:36:05 pm »
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Hey! Would appreciate if someone could give me a rough mark indication for my response to the last question of 2015 Paper 1.

Compare   how   TWO   of   the   texts   represent   the   significance   of   curiosity   in   the   process   of   discovering.

Discoveries, particularly the physical, can be significantly influenced by one’s curiosity, however the factor of necessity in certain discoveries cannot be disregarded. This is true of a comparison of text 1, which highlights the necessity of physical discovery that poverty invokes, and text 3, which epitomises the utmost lengths that the call go to in order to discover and satisfy their curiosity. Text 1 incorporates a jarring juxtaposition of the complexity of the language used for the characters dialogue, for example ‘Oh man, look at this!’ to the ‘voluminous pair of white rayan bleachers’. This exemplifies the situation of poverty the couple are in, prompting them to undergo a physical discovery for everyday items cut of sheer necessity. The couple portrayed in the extract are often in awe of what they find, the short, sudden exclamation such as ‘This!’ convey the dire situation they are in, that they have an appreciation towards the smallest of physical discoveries evoked entirely by necessity. This diminishes the importance of curiosity in the search for everyday items. The reaction of the responder is minimised by the wealthier British tourist, who are ‘disgusted’ by this utmost necessity. However, a different portrayal of the significance of curiosity in initiating physical discovery is evident in Text 3, Atwood’s Butterfly. The father’s appreciation for nature in his ‘three move walk through the forest to school’ is accomplished through the use of lyricism and cumulative listing as ‘he noticed everything; mushroom and scat, wild bloom, snail and , clunkmoss, fern and career’. This epitomises the father’s attunement towards nature, accounting for the great extent of curiosity the father has garnered in search of the ‘butterfly, as blue as eyes’. This curiosity is represented as the father had ‘the wish to know and the need to pracse’, prompting ‘that set him off his tangent’, and epitomising the importance of curiosity towards the father’s discovery. The description of the mapping ‘microscopes and numbers, candle pins, cars, undurings’ demonstrates the extent that the father is willing to go to satisfy his curiosity, evoked by the physical discovery of the butterfly. As such, a contrast of Text 1 and 3 epitomises that both necessity and curiosity are factors that drive individuals to physical discovery, depending in the situation.

Sorry if there are errors, got someone to type it up for me.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3065 on: October 13, 2017, 04:27:26 pm »
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ok so i haven't made any notes for paper 2 yet or done any practice papers, what's the best way to use my time this weekend to maximise my possible marks?

I'd suggest selecting techniques and arranging them into different themes and getting around 3-4 core themes that are universal in your specific texts. I'd suggest getting 2-3 quotes/techniques in the  TEPEE/SEEL/PEEL form per theme so that you have dense paragraphs. Furthermore, attempt to memorise them so you can improvise when you get into the exam room and adjust your thematic paragraphs based on the question. Memorise them either by recitation, writing them repetitively or doing an essay (i'd only suggest the third if you're incredibly confident or well prepared.)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3066 on: October 13, 2017, 04:52:06 pm »
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I'm using this exact quote!

Parallel sentence structures reinforce and emphasise the cascading effect of reform, implying a positive relationship between the act and the result. Inclusive language ('we') makes the audience feel personally invested in the push towards reconciliation.

That's perfect thank you so much! Can I ask how you're preparing for Mod B in paper 2? Are you memorising an essay or just quotes? I normally memorise essays but there just seems too be too much risk the speeches i chose wont work with the question

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3067 on: October 13, 2017, 07:13:26 pm »
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For module B speeches, since they assigned Dean and Lessing in the past 2 years, I'm planning on not studying them at all and just focusing on gathering techniques/quotes on the other 5 speeches. Would this be a viable risk to take?

Also... since Module B is based on personal understanding/critical understanding, how might one go about injecting a personal opinion/response to the speech within the paragraphs, rather than only drawing from other criticisms.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3068 on: October 13, 2017, 07:41:19 pm »
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hey! so my prescribed text for module C, is "the art of travel" by Alain de Botton! anyway, every time i look at a question i feel as if i can only strongly answer that question with one section of the book. like for example "on anticipation." however... I'm scared i will get marked down if i don't base my essay on the whole book and just one section?  :-\ so is it okay if i write an essay on one section? thankyou!!!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3069 on: October 13, 2017, 08:13:41 pm »
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Hey guys just wondering if a question is given that asks for 2 related texts what should the structure look like as in how should the second text be integrated ? or should it be individual paragraphs ?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3070 on: October 13, 2017, 09:05:30 pm »
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Hey! Would appreciate if someone could give me a rough mark indication for my response to the last question of 2015 Paper 1.
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Sorry if there are errors, got someone to type it up for me.
TIA!

Hey! You've got a good selection of quotes/techniques and a strong concept, but I think your analysis is fairly text focused. You are discussing characters and events rather than concepts more broadly, only linking back to Discovery as an afterthought to the character analysis rather than in the first instance. I'd say you are at 3.5-4ish right now!

For module B speeches, since they assigned Dean and Lessing in the past 2 years, I'm planning on not studying them at all and just focusing on gathering techniques/quotes on the other 5 speeches. Would this be a viable risk to take?

Hey! I mean, maybe, but if you walk in and see a question that either demands those speeches or would work brilliantly with them, you'll have only yourself to blame for being ill-prepared! To me, the HSC isn't the time to be taking a risk like that :)

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Also... since Module B is based on personal understanding/critical understanding, how might one go about injecting a personal opinion/response to the speech within the paragraphs, rather than only drawing from other criticisms.

Thank you~

I think a huge aspect of this is just how you frame your concepts - By coming up with your response to the question, and analysing it in your way, then it is only natural that your personal response is imbued in your essay! ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3071 on: October 13, 2017, 09:08:56 pm »
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hey! so my prescribed text for module C, is "the art of travel" by Alain de Botton! anyway, every time i look at a question i feel as if i can only strongly answer that question with one section of the book. like for example "on anticipation." however... I'm scared i will get marked down if i don't base my essay on the whole book and just one section?  :-\ so is it okay if i write an essay on one section? thankyou!!!

I don't imagine that would have a huge impact by itself - Do you think you can get enough analytical depth only from a single section of your text? If you can, I think you are good to go! ;D

Hey guys just wondering if a question is given that asks for 2 related texts what should the structure look like as in how should the second text be integrated ? or should it be individual paragraphs ?
Tha nks heaps :)

I think you've got a few options!

- Integrated paragraphs, with every text appearing in each paragraph (the order in there would be up to you!)
- One paragraph for core, one paragraph for RT 1, one paragraph for RT 2
- Four paragraphs: 2 comparing RT1 and Prescribed, 2 comparing RT2 and prescribed, so sort of like a semi-integrated approach

And I'm sure there would be more still :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3072 on: October 13, 2017, 09:29:14 pm »
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I don't imagine that would have a huge impact by itself - Do you think you can get enough analytical depth only from a single section of your text? If you can, I think you are good to go! ;D

I think you've got a few options!

- Integrated paragraphs, with every text appearing in each paragraph (the order in there would be up to you!)
- One paragraph for core, one paragraph for RT 1, one paragraph for RT 2
- Four paragraphs: 2 comparing RT1 and Prescribed, 2 comparing RT2 and prescribed, so sort of like a semi-integrated approach

And I'm sure there would be more still :)
Thanks Jamon are you allowed to prefernce one over the other (for related texts) like i have much more analysis for my first rather than my second
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3073 on: October 13, 2017, 09:49:01 pm »
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Thanks Jamon are you allowed to prefernce one over the other (for related texts) like i have much more analysis for my first rather than my second

Yeah absolutely, on the rare chance they asked for two I think they'd be reasonably lenient on preferring one of those - Don't go nuts of course, do your best, but it should be fine ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #3074 on: October 13, 2017, 10:51:53 pm »
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Quickie:
If I'm talking about Elizabeth Barret Browning can I reference her sonnets in hindu arabic numbers instead of roman numerals?
ie sonnet 13 instead of sonnet XIII
Thanks heaps  :)