HSC Class of 2016 Discussion Thread

[RuiAce]

can someone explain the process of ranks and the hsc ? cause some people say your internal rank is the mark you get with the person that got the same rank in the hsc & some say its just the person who's coming first internally gets the first persons mark in the hsc & is ranks a big thing cause just effed up trials -.-

As Jake pointed, please read the guide.

To answer your specific questions:

Does the person who top the internals come first?
Answer: NO, if you say it so bluntly.
Your mark is divided into 50% from internal assessment and external exam. They do NOT NECESSARILY top the external exam. But they DO top the internal component.

Are ranks a "big thing"?
Answer: DEPENDS. If your internal mark right now is, say, 50 behind 1st place, then that's going to impact a lot.
If your internal mark right now is, say, 2 behind 1st place, it's not going to cause any massive impact. It will do something, but the effects are small.

Just out of curiosity but why is the band 6 percentage rate for english standard extemely low?

Doesn't make sense to me

Generally the more capable students all run to Advanced.

Scaling is based on how strong the cohort is. Whilst it's intended to compare relative subject difficulty, it is ultimately based off more capable students tending to do subject X over subject Y.

If you can get a Band 6 in Advanced, you can get a Band 6 in Standard.

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Scaling is based on how strong the cohort is. Whilst it's intended to compare relative subject difficulty, it is ultimately based off more capable students tending to do subject X over subject Y.

If you can get a Band 6 in Advanced, you can get a Band 6 in Standard.

Oh, so it's not hard to get a band 6 in Standard? Getting a band 6 in standard seems hard because a lot of people don't get many band 6's

Would it be easier to get band 6 in standard than in advanced? (don't think about the state band 6 percentage rate)

When the cohort average is dragged down in a school, how does it affect the students or does it just affect the school's average mark and nothing else , or does it affect raw marks and hence affect scaling? I'm confused on this

[RuiAce]

Oh, so it's not hard to get a band 6 in Standard? Getting a band 6 in standard seems hard because a lot of people don't get many band 6's

Would it be easier to get band 6 in standard than in advanced? (don't think about the state band 6 percentage rate)

When the cohort average is dragged down in a school, how does it affect the students or does it just affect the school's average mark and nothing else , or does it affect raw marks and hence affect scaling? I'm confused on this

Nope. Advanced is designed only to be a bit harder than standard effectively.

Your cohort average sets the foundations for moderation. The average of the cohort in the exam essentially replaces that of what your teachers submitted.

If the average of the cohort in the final exam is trash then all the marks go down (excluding first place) E.g. If James Ruse submits very poor marks, but the average of everyone is 95, then they're going to do exceptionally well

Again, read Jamon's post. It has an example that demonstrates everything.

[tahmina]

well from what I've read into, does your rank determine your internal mark??

so for example if your coming 1st you get the 1st highest mark from the hsc as your internal mark and then thats averaged out with your actual raw hsc mark so if your cohort ranges from 90 to 75 the internal marks will be ranged from 90 to 75? :/

[RuiAce]

well from what I've read into, does your rank determine your internal mark??

so for example if your coming 1st you get the 1st highest mark from the hsc as your internal mark and then thats averaged out with your actual raw hsc mark so if your cohort ranges from 90 to 75 the internal marks will be ranged from 90 to 75? :/

Yes, except for the emphasized part. It's averaged out with your entire cohort's collection of actual marks.

Note - actual, in the context you put it, is your mark in the final exam. Not your final mark after counting both internal and external.

[tahmina]

but tats what I've read everywhere, that your internal marks come from the hsc and how your cohort does??

[RuiAce]

but tats what I've read everywhere, that your internal marks come from the hsc and how your cohort does??

That does not conflict with what I said

[conic curve]

That does not conflict with what I said

Isn't internals your actual school assessment HSC though?

[tahmina]

no, to make it fair and easy, it comes from the hsc ! as their are schools which may have harder or easier tests and have more lenient teachers which some may be hard.. so they try to make it fair

[RuiAce]

Isn't internals your actual school assessment HSC though?

What do you mean by this?

(If tahmina answered your question then don't worry)

[tahmina]

was my answer right though ?

[jamonwindeyer]

was my answer right though ?

It was! Like, internal marks are calculated based on the performance in the HSC, it isn't a direct copy, but it does come from there

[conic curve]

I saw here on this forum somewhere (I forgot where it was) that apparently at UTS open day, all the NSW mods were there (in a specific section)

Just curious but were any of you guys there and how was it?

[jamonwindeyer]

I saw here on this forum somewhere (I forgot where it was) that apparently at UTS open day, all the NSW mods were there (in a specific section)

Just curious but were any of you guys there and how was it?

Jake was there, along with Brenden I've heard it was a heap of fun!

[RuiAce]

Jake was there, along with Brenden I've heard it was a heap of fun!

What about Jamon? Was he there?