Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

November 08, 2025, 04:37:28 am

Author Topic: Two Related Texts  (Read 14514 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Lottie99

  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 41
  • More stressed than I seem
  • Respect: 0
Two Related Texts
« on: October 07, 2016, 01:41:16 pm »
0
Is it possible that they would ask for two related texts?
And if they do: if you have two paragraphs on your prescribed and two on your related is it better to do one each on two related texts and two on your prescribed text or would this seem like too much of a focus on your prescribed?

jakesilove

  • HSC Lecturer
  • Honorary Moderator
  • Part of the furniture
  • *******
  • Posts: 1941
  • "Synergising your ATAR potential"
  • Respect: +196
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2016, 01:43:46 pm »
0
Is it possible that they would ask for two related texts?
And if they do: if you have two paragraphs on your prescribed and two on your related is it better to do one each on two related texts and two on your prescribed text or would this seem like too much of a focus on your prescribed?

Hey!

They definitely COULD ask you for two related texts, and every single year group feels like they are going to be the year that have to use two. I'll tell you now that it is very, very unlikely that you'll need to incorporate two related texts. My best advice (for Paper 1 anyway) is to use a comprehension stimulus as the second related text. In terms of structure, I would still focus 50% on your set text, and 50% on a combination of related texts (preferably analysed together, rather than in separate paragraphs, but either way would work!)

Jake
ATAR: 99.80

Mathematics Extension 2: 93
Physics: 93
Chemistry: 93
Modern History: 94
English Advanced: 95
Mathematics: 96
Mathematics Extension 1: 98

Studying a combined Advanced Science/Law degree at UNSW

Lottie99

  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 41
  • More stressed than I seem
  • Respect: 0
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2016, 01:47:42 pm »
0
Would it be ok to take a text from one of the modules as a discovery text?
e.g Margaret Edson's W;t

jakesilove

  • HSC Lecturer
  • Honorary Moderator
  • Part of the furniture
  • *******
  • Posts: 1941
  • "Synergising your ATAR potential"
  • Respect: +196
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2016, 01:51:24 pm »
0
Would it be ok to take a text from one of the modules as a discovery text?
e.g Margaret Edson's W;t

Absolutely! Saves you learning another text, means you've already analysed it; it's the perfect solution to when they put you in a difficult situation :)

Jake
ATAR: 99.80

Mathematics Extension 2: 93
Physics: 93
Chemistry: 93
Modern History: 94
English Advanced: 95
Mathematics: 96
Mathematics Extension 1: 98

Studying a combined Advanced Science/Law degree at UNSW

edmododragon

  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 32
  • Respect: 0
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2016, 02:40:22 pm »
0
Have they ever asked for two before? I know a friend who used two in our trials because the question asked for "at least one" related text and did well, but has there ever been a year where they have asked for two?
Also if they do and you don't have one ready, is it ok for you to make up one (make up title, composer, quotes, and analyse your own made up quotes)?

jakesilove

  • HSC Lecturer
  • Honorary Moderator
  • Part of the furniture
  • *******
  • Posts: 1941
  • "Synergising your ATAR potential"
  • Respect: +196
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2016, 02:47:07 pm »
-1
Have they ever asked for two before? I know a friend who used two in our trials because the question asked for "at least one" related text and did well, but has there ever been a year where they have asked for two?
Also if they do and you don't have one ready, is it ok for you to make up one (make up title, composer, quotes, and analyse your own made up quotes)?

I don't think they've every asked for two, and I don't think they ever would. If they ask for at least one, you'd be putting yourself at a disadvantage if you use more than one. Don't use two unless they absolutely force you to.

Don't make up related texts. It makes more sense to use a movie you've watched recently, a book you've read, a song you've listened to. Make up the analysis, or even scenes/quotes if you absolutely need to, but markers are more likely to search the name of your text that quotes within the texts.
ATAR: 99.80

Mathematics Extension 2: 93
Physics: 93
Chemistry: 93
Modern History: 94
English Advanced: 95
Mathematics: 96
Mathematics Extension 1: 98

Studying a combined Advanced Science/Law degree at UNSW

asd987

  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 72
  • Respect: 0
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2016, 05:26:50 pm »
0
Has the HSC ever asked for 2 related texts? Also does at least one text mean 2?

jakesilove

  • HSC Lecturer
  • Honorary Moderator
  • Part of the furniture
  • *******
  • Posts: 1941
  • "Synergising your ATAR potential"
  • Respect: +196
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2016, 05:27:43 pm »
0
Has the HSC ever asked for 2 related texts? Also does at least one text mean 2?

Check the above comments, which answer both of your questions already
ATAR: 99.80

Mathematics Extension 2: 93
Physics: 93
Chemistry: 93
Modern History: 94
English Advanced: 95
Mathematics: 96
Mathematics Extension 1: 98

Studying a combined Advanced Science/Law degree at UNSW

jamonwindeyer

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 10149
  • The lurker from the north.
  • Respect: +3108
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2016, 08:01:43 pm »
0
Has the HSC ever asked for 2 related texts? Also does at least one text mean 2?

And to re-accentuate, if they say use "at least one," you are much better off using one!! Makes it easier on you ;D

edmododragon

  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 32
  • Respect: 0
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2016, 08:16:36 pm »
0
And to re-accentuate, if they say use "at least one," you are much better off using one!! Makes it easier on you ;D

Interesting my friend who used two related texts did very well :p

jamonwindeyer

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 10149
  • The lurker from the north.
  • Respect: +3108
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2016, 08:43:13 pm »
0
Interesting my friend who used two related texts did very well :p

Yep I definitely believe that!! The rule isn't hard and fast ;D the markers won't really mind, but using one is almost inevitably easier ;D

kb123

  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 74
  • Respect: 0
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2016, 10:40:16 am »
0
Does the related text for the Discovery essay have to have similar themes/ideas and types of discovery? Or can it be something totally different to the text? I'm studying "Motorcycle Diaries", so should I have a related text that involves, say, a journey, changes in perspective, realisation of the impact of certain political structures, or can it be just a text that has discovery in it?
What would I get better marks on more easily?

Whoever has done "Motorcycle Diaries" this year please let me know what related texts you guys used :) It would be much appreciated :)

jamonwindeyer

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 10149
  • The lurker from the north.
  • Respect: +3108
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2016, 11:06:26 am »
0
Does the related text for the Discovery essay have to have similar themes/ideas and types of discovery? Or can it be something totally different to the text? I'm studying "Motorcycle Diaries", so should I have a related text that involves, say, a journey, changes in perspective, realisation of the impact of certain political structures, or can it be just a text that has discovery in it?
What would I get better marks on more easily?

Whoever has done "Motorcycle Diaries" this year please let me know what related texts you guys used :) It would be much appreciated :)

So you kind of have two options here. It can match up as you described, or it can be a complementary opposite. Meaning, if your Prescribed Text has a long journey and slow Discovery that is taken willingly, you could have an ORT where it is an unexpected or not embraced. Then you end up playing them against each other, explaining how the same idea of Discovery is portrayed differently.

Normally, identical treatment of Discovery is easier, but playing them against each other can be really clever :)

Neutron

  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 104
  • Respect: 0
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2016, 11:42:14 am »
0
Have they ever asked for two before? I know a friend who used two in our trials because the question asked for "at least one" related text and did well, but has there ever been a year where they have asked for two?
Also if they do and you don't have one ready, is it ok for you to make up one (make up title, composer, quotes, and analyse your own made up quotes)?

A cheeky tip I learnt from one of my friends is that if they do end up asking two and you only have one prepared, use a text from the reading task  ;) That way you can easily analyse on the spot with the text in front of you (well technically you've already analysed it in part a) ). They can't take marks off for that and it's much easier than trying to make stuff up on the spot!

kb123

  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 74
  • Respect: 0
Re: Two Related Texts
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2016, 11:51:44 am »
0
So you kind of have two options here. It can match up as you described, or it can be a complementary opposite. Meaning, if your Prescribed Text has a long journey and slow Discovery that is taken willingly, you could have an ORT where it is an unexpected or not embraced. Then you end up playing them against each other, explaining how the same idea of Discovery is portrayed differently.

Normally, identical treatment of Discovery is easier, but playing them against each other can be really clever :)

Thanks for the feedback!