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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2016, 06:32:39 pm »
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uhhh can you provide the solutions that they link to? facebook group is private :P
Oh crap sorry! It's on VCE discussion space, all uploaded as images. Any other way I could share them?
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2016, 06:51:16 pm »
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2016, 06:54:45 pm »
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Apologies for any heart attacks caused by incorrect answers (if there are any).
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #93 on: November 03, 2016, 07:01:32 pm »
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for 3f) some people are suggesting that you have to do 50/100 * 49/99 * 50/98 =25/198

What are you thoughts on this

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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #94 on: November 03, 2016, 07:04:55 pm »
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for 3f) some people are suggesting that you have to do 50/100 * 49/99 * 50/98 =25/198

What are you thoughts on this

That sounds right lol
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #95 on: November 03, 2016, 07:07:06 pm »
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for 3f) some people are suggesting that you have to do 50/100 * 49/99 * 50/98 =25/198

What are you thoughts on this
i did that too, as the sample size was 100 and therefore probabilty wasnt independent? not sure if im right, oh and 3d was to 3 decimal places. also for 4fi i got the same answer , except with a modulus ( in my CAS) , so i put the modulus in as the answer as well (in the brackets of loge), would i be penalised?

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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2016, 07:20:23 pm »
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for 3f) some people are suggesting that you have to do 50/100 * 49/99 * 50/98 =25/198

What are you thoughts on this

eh I feel like it can be interpreted either way as replacement isn't specified

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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #97 on: November 03, 2016, 07:24:43 pm »
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for 3f) some people are suggesting that you have to do 50/100 * 49/99 * 50/98 =25/198

What are you thoughts on this
I reckon it's implying no replacement. Once you've inspected a computer, you won't be inspecting the same computer again, so he most likely will put it to one side.
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #98 on: November 03, 2016, 07:53:42 pm »
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So because the function in 3h. isn't actually a probability density function, there are two possible "medians": 176.45 (integrating from 0 to m) and 176.43 (integrating from m to 210).

How many examiners does it take to define a probability density function?
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #99 on: November 03, 2016, 08:19:29 pm »
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I reckon it's implying no replacement. Once you've inspected a computer, you won't be inspecting the same computer again, so he most likely will put it to one side.

I reckon that since we don't know the sample proportion, the sample of 100 was irrelevant? The probability was taken from the large population. It's not about replacing or not replacing. I can't see why the prob would be different that if he were to take each computer one by one from the large population.
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2016, 08:29:31 pm »
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2016, 08:38:41 pm »
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isnt the rule if np>5 then you can use binom.
100*1/2=50>5

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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #102 on: November 03, 2016, 08:40:18 pm »
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isnt the rule if np>5 then you can use binom.
100*1/2=50>5

if n>30, normal
if n<30 binom

Regardless of these rules, I'm definite that this was independent using both logic and what i've heard VCAA will adhere to in the future.
small pop=ncr etc.

I'm almost confident 3f) is 1/8
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #103 on: November 03, 2016, 08:41:01 pm »
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Also for 4fii could I use a graph and limits.
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Re: Suggested Answers and Discussion for Methods Exam 2
« Reply #104 on: November 03, 2016, 08:45:07 pm »
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if n>30, normal
if n<30 binom

Regardless of these rules, I'm definite that this was independent using both logic and what i've heard VCAA will adhere to in the future.
small pop=ncr etc.

I'm almost confident 3f) is 1/8

Yeah actually since we don't know the sample proportion it's as good as selecting with replacement. Gotta change that back.
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