American presidential election

[brenden]

Yeah it is ridiculous but realistically, we were always left between a rock and a hard place. Although, I'm sure I can say for everyone that we're all looking forward to seeing what he does in his first few days as president. Buckle up for a rollercoaster ride everyone.

A rock and a qualifidd presidential candidate, maybe. lol

[ayesha2011t]

First, there was the first black president of the US, now Americans need to prepare for the first orange president. yay for diversity..?

[Adequace]

First, there was the first black president of the US, now Americans need to prepare for the first orange president. yay

#orangelivesmatter

[keltingmeith]

Simpsons, always there for help.

[HighTide]

A rock and a qualifidd presidential candidate, maybe. lol

I agree with that to an extent. Hillary is obviously experienced and she knows how to communicate with others to get what she wants and in that way she is very professional. But at the same time, she's not genuine. I would personally have voted for Hillary due to Trump's ridiculous ideas (past and most likely future) but at the same time, her ulterior motives make me wonder "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".

[jamonwindeyer]

I agree with that to an extent. Hillary is obviously experienced and she knows how to communicate with others to get what she wants and in that way she is very professional. But at the same time, she's not genuine. I would personally have voted for Hillary due to Trump's ridiculous ideas (past and most likely future) but at the same time, her ulterior motives make me wonder "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".

Better a politician for president than a reality TV star imo...

Absolutely baffling.

[vox nihili]

I agree with that to an extent. Hillary is obviously experienced and she knows how to communicate with others to get what she wants and in that way she is very professional. But at the same time, she's not genuine. I would personally have voted for Hillary due to Trump's ridiculous ideas (past and most likely future) but at the same time, her ulterior motives make me wonder "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".

Oh yeah, because the man who made billions of dollars ripping people off is more "genuine" when he says that he's going to be the one to battle for American workers and American jobs. The man who, literally, said that he wanted to run for the Republican party because they're "so stupid I could just lie and they'd believe everything I said" is more genuine.

Compare this to the woman who has spent ALL of her life fighting for civil rights. Who has spent all of her life in public life when, frankly, she could be making an absolute shit tonne doing other shit, is the one who's less genuine.

Are there any major implications of Trump becoming president, especially towards Australia? If not, I'll continue laughing away.

Many. A lot of it is fairly complex stuff and I can't pretend that I really get it all, but basically:

His policies are really anti-free trade. For instance, he wants to end NAFTA (which is a free trade agreement) and also wants to add 40% tarrifs on Chinese products—basically increase the price of every good from China by 40%. This basically reduces the capacity of the businesses with which we do trade to make money. If they make less money, there's less money for them to buy shit from us, then we lose out.

He's also all for nuclear proliferation. He's on the record as saying that more countries should have access to nukes. Don't even need to explain why that's bad.


Anyway, shit explanation, but those are a couple of examples of why Trump is bad from us, aside from the identity politics of it as well. Australians know US presidents well. They get a lot of coverage here. So the things he says are things that will also hit home here. All the racist rhetoric. The anti-women rhetoric, etc. That has an impact here, too.

[Dettol(forThatHealthyTouch)]

Are there any major implications of Trump becoming president, especially towards Australia? If not, I'll continue laughing away.

Trump has won 276 to 218. Implications for australia have already started, with 35 billion dollars wiped out of our economy, as this news goes public, there is no doubt that there will be much more than just that.

[olivercutbill]

Trump is appealing to those who see no restraint and forethought, and rather brashness and explosive, provocative language, as the new type of 'authenticity'.

Elites took trump literally, supporters took him figuratively and laughed the whole way. Look at reddit.com/r/the_donald for people memeing their way to the white house.

Even latently, the prospect of a Trump-nuclear marriage is terrifying.

[olivercutbill]

Additionally, the A$ might be worth something now.

AUSTRALIA NEW LARGEST OUTBOUND TOURIST MARKET 2K16

[HighTide]

Oh yeah, because the man who made billions of dollars ripping people off is more "genuine" when he says that he's going to be the one to battle for American workers and American jobs. The man who, literally, said that he wanted to run for the Republican party because they're "so stupid I could just lie and they'd believe everything I said" is more genuine.

Compare this to the woman who has spent ALL of her life fighting for civil rights. Who has spent all of her life in public life when, frankly, she could be making an absolute shit tonne doing other shit, is the one who's less genuine.

Many. A lot of it is fairly complex stuff and I can't pretend that I really get it all, but basically:

His policies are really anti-free trade. For instance, he wants to end NAFTA (which is a free trade agreement) and also wants to add 40% tarrifs on Chinese products—basically increase the price of every good from China by 40%. This basically reduces the capacity of the businesses with which we do trade to make money. If they make less money, there's less money for them to buy shit from us, then we lose out.

He's also all for nuclear proliferation. He's on the record as saying that more countries should have access to nukes. Don't even need to explain why that's bad.


Anyway, shit explanation, but those are a couple of examples of why Trump is bad from us, aside from the identity politics of it as well. Australians know US presidents well. They get a lot of coverage here. So the things he says are things that will also hit home here. All the racist rhetoric. The anti-women rhetoric, etc. That has an impact here, too.

I never actually implied Trump is genuine. Believe me I'm not saying one's better than the other. I'm just saying that neither should be the POTUS.

[Joseph41]

Speechless.

[vox nihili]

I never actually implied Trump is genuine. Believe me I'm not saying one's better than the other. I'm just saying that neither should be the POTUS.

Fair, wasn't fair of me to imply that you had implied it.


The mods were talking about this just the other day actually. I just really can't understand all the hate for Hillary and why people think that she's an unacceptable choice for president. She's calm under pressure, which she had demonstrated 1000x over despite the vitriol levelled at her. She's intelligent and always across her brief. She comes in with enormous experience, having got to know the workings of the White House as First Lady and SoS, learning the ropes at the Capitol as a senator and then rubbing shoulders with leaders all around the world, once again as SoS. Sure, she has had some policy failures, but these have been outstripped by the enormous number of successes she's had over a very long career in public life.

Her policy positions are largely agreeable too. She's for gun laws, pro-choice, in favour of same sex marriage. She's in favour of allowing illegal immigrants, who have lived in and contributed to the US for years, to stay. She's also pro-trade and respected by world leaders all around the world.

Lastly, the e-mail scandal is such a non-issue. Genuinely, if the same thing happened here, nobody would give a rats arse. Oh wait, the same thing is happening here. It was revealed last month (I think?) that the PM and his ministers are using a private survey to communicate that hasn't been vetted and over which they may be sharing classified material. Sound familiar?

[RuiAce]

Why does everyone seem so upset.

I would've preferred Hilary too just because of what kind of person trump is but either way US was fucked.

[literally lauren]

pfft, what's he gonna do? Build a wall around me and make the Mexicans pay for it?

Come at me, Donald -.-

hindsight is 20/20