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Have you had an experience with God?
« on: June 09, 2017, 03:46:25 am »
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I was baptised a Catholic, but in recent years I've moved away from the Church and now I say I'm an atheist.

In High School I questioned the existence of God but I had a few experiences that, to me, were just too unexplainable without attributing them to God. Now, I don't class as religious and those experiences are no longer so astounding to me. I'll share mine, but I'd love to know your experiences first.

But, have you ever experienced some kind of miracle - even a small one? Have you had a "ahh, God did this" moment?

On the flip side, my mum went to Assisi in Italy 6 years ago and she said she just felt overwhelmed with the presence of God. So she took my family there two years later, and I really anticipated some divine tingling (and the Pope was even there!) but instead I just saw a beautiful, tiny city where everyone believed in God and I realised in that moment, that I don't. Absolute banter that I went to Napoli's Duomo in Italy two months ago and my breathe was so taken away I thought "maybe I should give Christianity another chance." Then I remembered architecture is not the reason I should be doing that...

So, I'm keen to know! Have you had experiences with God, big or small? Or, have you had an experience that really made you think, "actually, no, I don't believe in God after all."
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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 11:08:49 am »
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Fascinating question. As a self-professed ihavenofuckingclueist, this topic profoundly confuses me. :P

The following example sounds mundane, and could easily be explained as a coincidence. And yet... and yet.

After VCE, I was doing an aged care course that had completely fucked me over for months. One day, having never done so before, I happened to randomly visit someone I knew in an nearby aged care home, where I just happened to run across their DDON (deputy director of nursing), happened to start a conversation, happened to mention my fiasco of a course, happened to hear about an externally provided course based at that facility that was really good, which happened to be starting the very next day, and which the DDON highly recommended as the best aged care course she'd ever seen. I went home, decided to sign up if they didn't comment on my DOB when enrolling (I wasn't legally old enough to enrol in the course); it turned out to be conveniently free despite costing a couple of grand according to their website, and within two hours of hearing about it I was unenrolled from my first course and enrolled in a course starting the next day.

The course turned out to be excellent, totally placement-based, and led smoothly to a job at that aged care home, which I loved - and even a year since I stopped working there, they say they're keen to have me back as a casual at absolutely any time I want.



Apart from coincidence, some experiences take you... above and beyond yourself. Moments of "transcendence", or "enlightenment", or "ekstasis". Moments when you can almost touch a higher power: in the silence atop a grand peak, while caught up in a soaring rush of music (this being an example for me), or when deeply moved by connection with another.

These moments can be explained purely chemically - but they don't feel chemical, they feel spiritual. You know, you just know, that life can't be sheer chance and accident: there is something just out of your reach that is greater, deeper and more beautiful than your human brain can comprehend.
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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 12:28:24 pm »
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I was also raised a Catholic. When I was in primary school I truly felt that I had witnessed god. Every time my mother and I prayed the rosary, she would tell me to smell the rosary beads. It had a sweet, flowery scent and I believed that god was watching over me. My mother would me tell stories about the devil possessing people and the imminent apocalypse. I remember I had a nightmare that was surreal. God was punishing me because I started having doubts. My legs felt like they were being dragged by evil spirits. As soon as I woke up I started praying crazily. No joke. I was scared shitless.

What made me "liberated" or whatever you want to call it was studying biology, reading up on the history of religion and watching many debates. So all is good now. However, I emphasize with children that aren't/weren't as lucky as me.

I think why some say they have had an experience with god because we’re pattern seeking mammals. We go throughout our day constantly processing and discarding irrelevant information. When we encounter something beyond our wildest dreams, some of us believe that it’s much more than just a coincidence. The desire to find causes for everything is all too human.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2017, 02:23:50 pm »
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As someone with no personal experience in a religious setting, this thread is genuinely amazing to me. I would love to hear more.
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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2017, 03:27:48 pm »
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I'm a Hindu, and my experiences with God aren't necessarily profound. Rather, I see God in everything I do (yes, cliche, I know ::)).

As a very young child (probably around 5-8), I went to a Temple (in Melbourne) and while I was praying, I accidentally burnt my hand on a lamp (the priest comes around to everyone and we all cup our hands over the flame and touch our heads, basically symbolising God blessing us). It was a burn that only occurred on one of my fingernails, and the nail turned pale blue. I remember this vividly because now I find out that burnt nails are supposed to go black, while bruised nails go blue. It was interesting because the colour was the same as the colour of Krishna a (Hindu God)'s skin in paintings and works of art.

Also in general life, whenever I lose something that I really really need (like homework lol), I'll search for ages and then ask God for help, and literally every time I have done this I've found the thing I've been looking for within two minutes.

Recently, as I was praying in bed (don't always do this, it's actually uncommon for me but I really needed to talk that night), it suddenly started hailing and there was a massive rainstorm. I swear to God I'm not even joking. Literally, I said, "so God, I've been wanting to talk about..." and suddenly there were torrents of rain on top of my house, and then there was thunder and lightning too, flashing on my face. I legit freaked out. It was super calm before and there was absolutely no sign of rain...then all of a sudden, thunder & lightning & hail & rain!

Also I've had dreams of God before. I had a dream about a Temple (that I'd never been to before). The insides were dark and the idols were lit up, but the surroundings were black. I also remembered the checkered floor. I finally did some googling and found out it was the Krishna Balaram ISCKON Temple in Vrindavan, the place where Krishna grew up. I also found out the biggest gurus in all of Hinduism (Swami Prabhupada) was buried there. I didn't know this Temple even existed before!

So yeah, that's some of the things where I was like, "yep, definitely God."  :) :)

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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2017, 03:04:59 am »
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Even if I've rejected many other parts of Christianity, something I've always liked is the notion of Saints. I know there's even controversy around Saints in the Christian Church (is it worshipping idols? Some would say). Nana used to tell me to pray to Saint Terese of the Little Rose when I was a child - she's the Saint foe children. Nana used to say that if I prayed to her, my prayer would go to God straight away and he'd listen because he loves to hear from children the most. I remember one time after my parents had an argument (looking back it was actually not even a big argument but something must have put my on edge at the time) and I prayed for three days to St Terese of the Little Rose that mum and dad wouldn't divorce lol. It was really comforting for me when I was younger, I liked the idea of talking to a Saint - someone who once upon a time existed in the flesh - because it seemed more personalised. I don't think I've ever really been able to grasp "God" but Saints were accessible.

I've prayed to St Anthony (Saint of lost items) mannnnny times. My mum had a pair of tiny tiny tiny diamond earrings that I wore to High School in about Year 9, without her permission. I wore them for three days lol. On the third day, one fell out during PE and I realised when I was on the other side of the school. I thought "Mum is going to make this the thing I regret most." My whole class was stopping, looking through grass, basketball courts, classrooms, etc. I prayed to Saint Anthony that I find the earring at the end of the day, after calling the search off. I texted mum and explained so she'd have time to cool off by the time we both got home. Then, a peer (his name was Hamish) came running up to me with the lost earring! This earring is honestly the smallest earring you can possibly imagine. He found it in the BOYS changeroom (promise I wasn't in there). I could've cried. Mum texted me back, not knowing it was found again, saying "that's ok...earrings are made to be worn. Glad you got some wear out of them." So...two miracles happened here: mum didn't kill me, and the earring was found against all odds after praying to Saint Anthony.

One more, but not sure what to put this down to. My Poppy was the MOST wonderful grandfather, and he had numerous knee surgeries in my lifetime and he hobbled for as long as I can remember, used a walking stick, had braces on his knees, etc. He's the kinda grandad who never complained and even if I wasn't telling the truth in my stories as a kid he'd go along with it and not call me out (bless him). So, he died about 3 years ago and his last 6 months were really rough. But all of my life, he's sat at the kitchen table when we'd have family gatherings, and he'd slice up all the vegetables and the meat and whatever else, and he'd do as much of the cooking as he could from the kitchen table so he could sit down. He even bought a portable oven thing to sit on the table so he could cook from there because he couldn't stand up for long. Anyway, his death was real hard on mum (super Catholic). She wasn't dealing well, and then about a week after he died she had a dream that he was chopping food up at the table like normal, but then he suddenly got up and started walking into the kitchen. And mum said "Dad, what are you doing? Sit down, you'll hurt yourself" and he said "No, I'm not in pain. I don't feel pain anymore, I feel so happy." So mum obvs puts this down to Poppy weaving himself into her dream through some kind of miracle. I don't know what I put it down to. I can't imagine that her own mind/body would've come up with that considering the circumstances, but I don't know that it was the working of God either.

My Nana (Poppy's wife) (for the record, Poppy was Presbyterian and Nana and mum are Catholic) also has a few stories of people she knows, or people she's related to, having apparitions from Mother Mary after the deaths of their partners (usually due to alcoholism). But my Nana hasn't had an apparition. I think Marian apparitions I genuinely fascinating.

Despite all of this, I can't connect with an image of God. I can connect with a message from God, but not the way Churches play it out. But, I guess I'd say I've experienced God, despite not believing in God, which makes no sense at all.
I'm a Hindu, and my experiences with God aren't necessarily profound. Rather, I see God in everything I do (yes, cliche, I know ::)).

As a very young child (probably around 5-8), I went to a Temple (in Melbourne) and while I was praying, I accidentally burnt my hand on a lamp (the priest comes around to everyone and we all cup our hands over the flame and touch our heads, basically symbolising God blessing us). It was a burn that only occurred on one of my fingernails, and the nail turned pale blue. I remember this vividly because now I find out that burnt nails are supposed to go black, while bruised nails go blue. It was interesting because the colour was the same as the colour of Krishna a (Hindu God)'s skin in paintings and works of art.

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Fascinating question. As a self-professed ihavenofuckingclueist, this topic profoundly confuses me. :P

The following example sounds mundane, and could easily be explained as a coincidence. And yet... and yet.

Where do you think your "ihavenofuckingclueist" situation came from? Is it a matter of, sometimes God looks real, and other times not at all? Or is it about Church teachings? Or are other religions throwing some confusing ideas into the mix for you? Of course, you don't need to answer. I'm just probing :)
I was also raised a Catholic. When I was in primary school I truly felt that I had witnessed god. Every time my mother and I prayed the rosary, she would tell me to smell the rosary beads. It had a sweet, flowery scent and I believed that god was watching over me. My mother would me tell stories about the devil possessing people and the imminent apocalypse. I remember I had a nightmare that was surreal. God was punishing me because I started having doubts. My legs felt like they were being dragged by evil spirits. As soon as I woke up I started praying crazily. No joke. I was scared shitless.

What made me "liberated" or whatever you want to call it was studying biology, reading up on the history of religion and watching many debates. So all is good now. However, I emphasize with children that aren't/weren't as lucky as me.

I think why some say they have had an experience with god because we’re pattern seeking mammals. We go throughout our day constantly processing and discarding irrelevant information. When we encounter something beyond our wildest dreams, some of us believe that it’s much more than just a coincidence. The desire to find causes for everything is all too human.


I'm really empathising with this last part you've written here. Thanks for sharing! I've enjoyed your insight :)
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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2017, 03:28:03 am »
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I can't say I've been the best Christian in my life, I still believe in a God but I feel that I do not actively strive to follow the values of the Church.

That said, an experience with God.

At my Year 12 Retreat there was the exact same question posted to my entire cohort. There were many stories shared, most of which went along the lines of Something going wrong, praying and it fixing itself. An encounter with God isn't necessitated by a strictly positive experience. I feel that an experience with God should be something that is but not limited to something that is inconceivable to the human. It's these miracles and feelings of awe for me that constitute a true experience with God, and for many as you've shared is an experience that is filled with happiness and I can understand.

Onto my experience. Only recently I had my mother pass away. She was diagnosed with Stage 3 Cancer and the survival chances were incredibly slim. Soon after the diagnosis she underwent intense chemotherapy and other various treatments but to no avail. It wasn't long after she was restricted to the confines of the hospital. The cancer was diagnosed in June and spent July til November organizing everything she had to from the hospital. It was far too quick honestly. Towards December she was unconscious. She would hardly open her eyes or talk at all, the cancer had taken over her brain and motor skills. It was hard to watch, it really was. Nights spent at her bedside scared shitless that breath may be her last. I'm just glad it was school holidays at the time so I could spend the time there. It was one day Mid December we had a Priest from a friends Parish come in and talk, bless and pray for her and our family. Along with my family he also sang some songs for her, religious I assume. Keep in mind at this point she spent the entire day lying down with an oxygen mask on. Eyes shut. Struggling for breath. When the Priest was singing, according to my grandparents, aunt and the Priest my mother opened her eyes and made an effort to join in singing and even mustered a few words. It may not sound like much but watching her every day lying there lifeless this was something I couldn't fathom. It seemed impossible, that somebody who was bedridden with cancer and unconscious would be able to still respond in that manner. I was never a strict believe in Christ despite going to a Catholic High School, I still can't say I am but after that encounter it's hard to believe that God does not exist in some form. I was more baffled then happy. It's moments like this where you really take a step back and think, what the hell just happened?

Apologies if my anecdote seemed dramatised or exaggerated. I'm not seeking for sympathy but rather to describe the experience.

Christ is a phenomenon I don't think will ever cease to be debated. It's something far too profound to permit a conclusion and I think that's good. God will always be a role model for me.

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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2017, 03:38:03 am »
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I can't say I've been the best Christian in my life, I still believe in a God but I feel that I do not actively strive to follow the values of the Church.

That said, an experience with God.

Thanks for sharing Wales. I think I gained something from reading that. I'm really sorry to hear about your mum, but no doubt that last experience really stays with you in a positive way. Can I ask, do you think your relationship with God has changed since then? Or is it more that you've had a touching experience and you're still making sense of the entire thing?

Again, I appreciate you sharing :)
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2017, 03:50:42 am »
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Thanks for sharing Wales. I think I gained something from reading that. I'm really sorry to hear about your mum, but no doubt that last experience really stays with you in a positive way. Can I ask, do you think your relationship with God has changed since then? Or is it more that you've had a touching experience and you're still making sense of the entire thing?

Again, I appreciate you sharing :)

I think my relationship with God has definitely gotten closer but not as close as I would like it to be as of now.

Every single day, I gain knowledge. I become smarter, more insightful, curious. That one experience I had will stay with me and continuously reform in accordance to my personal belief and values. In 10 years from now I may view that experience from a different perspective to what I do now. I feel that I have only gotten a sense of what religion really is. It's truly profound. I wish to further my knowledge about Religion and philosophy in order to truly draw upon my experiences.

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 11:05:55 pm »
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hiya!
I SERIOUSLY DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW I GOT ONTO THIS THREAD I WAS ON MY WAY TO ENGLISH ADVANCED but I've thoroughly enjoyed reading everyone's spiritual experiences and I think religion and spirituality is so fascinating to discuss! That being said, I thought I would give my two cents!

Similar to a few on here, I was baptised and raised Catholic and have always had a strong Catholic influence in my life. However my household was spiritual and on paper didn't really do the conventional Christiany things like going to Church. So all my life, the presence of Jesus has always been absolute, especially considering the fact my entire education has been in the Catholic school system. But despite having all this influence, I was still sooo confused because on paper I was a Christian; I went to a Catholic school, got all the sacraments under ma' belt but I was still a bit meh.

So, last year I had the privellage of being able to attend World Youth Day in Krakow, Poland. For all my systemic Catholic school homies, I think you'll know what I'm talking about ahahah. Essentially, it's a massive gathering of Catholic young people from all around the world. And I mean all around the world. It lasts for about a week and you do religious thinks like attend Cathecism sessions where you would ask questions about Catholicsim and then Christian concerts where you would worship and then you would have these maaaasive masses with all your fellow pilgrims that culminated with the final mass that was led by the Pope himself! It honestly was one of the best experiences of my life. I saw the most beautiful churches and spoke to some of the most faith-filled people that tried to explain the mystery that was God and religion. I was there with some of my best friends and had my own faith-filled moments that will stay with me forever. So you'd think that travelling half-way around the world in search of answers to life big questions would have me set for life right? WRONG!! In all seriousness, I think what the trip did was confuse me more about the logistics of religion. I'll admit there was a honeymoon period at home where I was like "Yep, Christianity's the one for me!" but then the giddyness of it all started to wear off and reality set in. BUT, what this trip did do for me was affirm this belief in a higher power. There was a particular situation where I was at a worship concert with my school group when a middle aged polish man came up to me. He smiled in happiness at first when I asked him where he was from. "Poland" he replied. I then smiled and laughed. He then pointed to his cross and I assume he was trying to convey the fact he was Christian. I laughed again. Now, this man was incredibly intoxicated, like you could smell it from about a foot away. There were definitely alarm bells going off. So we started to say our goodbyes when a friend of mine gave him a high five. I too, then put up my hand and gave him a high five. We made eye contact for a second and he didn't let my hand go. This man then started bursting into tears. Like hysterics. Right in front of me. With the limited Polish I had, I just started nodding to him and saying "it's okay". He then smiled, nodded back at me in thankfulness and left. Now this, as strange as this may seem, this was my experience with God. I don't mean to be all existentialist here, but life can be pretty shit at times, and I think there is a fellowship in that shittyness. Okay rephrase that in English: There's an essence amongst us all that I think is undeniable and that to me is God. Whatever faith, you align yourself with, even if it's no faith at all, we each bring purpose to our lives especially to the people that we meet. There's so much more I could say but I think I should stop there as I have written a short novel. Which is ironic since I have four tasks due between now and next Friday including an extension creative which I haven't finished. So I guess it makes perfect sense to share my religious beliefs at 11pm!!!1

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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2017, 11:56:17 pm »
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hiya!
I SERIOUSLY DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW I GOT ONTO THIS THREAD I WAS ON MY WAY TO ENGLISH ADVANCED but I've thoroughly enjoyed reading everyone's spiritual experiences and I think religion and spirituality is so fascinating to discuss! That being said, I thought I would give my two cents!

Similar to a few on here, I was baptised and raised Catholic and have always had a strong Catholic influence in my life. However my household was spiritual and on paper didn't really do the conventional Christiany things like going to Church. So all my life, the presence of Jesus has always been absolute, especially considering the fact my entire education has been in the Catholic school system. But despite having all this influence, I was still sooo confused because on paper I was a Christian; I went to a Catholic school, got all the sacraments under ma' belt but I was still a bit meh.

So, last year I had the privellage of being able to attend World Youth Day in Krakow, Poland. For all my systemic Catholic school homies, I think you'll know what I'm talking about ahahah. Essentially, it's a massive gathering of Catholic young people from all around the world. And I mean all around the world. It lasts for about a week and you do religious thinks like attend Cathecism sessions where you would ask questions about Catholicsim and then Christian concerts where you would worship and then you would have these maaaasive masses with all your fellow pilgrims that culminated with the final mass that was led by the Pope himself! It honestly was one of the best experiences of my life. I saw the most beautiful churches and spoke to some of the most faith-filled people that tried to explain the mystery that was God and religion. I was there with some of my best friends and had my own faith-filled moments that will stay with me forever. So you'd think that travelling half-way around the world in search of answers to life big questions would have me set for life right? WRONG!! In all seriousness, I think what the trip did was confuse me more about the logistics of religion. I'll admit there was a honeymoon period at home where I was like "Yep, Christianity's the one for me!" but then the giddyness of it all started to wear off and reality set in. BUT, what this trip did do for me was affirm this belief in a higher power. There was a particular situation where I was at a worship concert with my school group when a middle aged polish man came up to me. He smiled in happiness at first when I asked him where he was from. "Poland" he replied. I then smiled and laughed. He then pointed to his cross and I assume he was trying to convey the fact he was Christian. I laughed again. Now, this man was incredibly intoxicated, like you could smell it from about a foot away. There were definitely alarm bells going off. So we started to say our goodbyes when a friend of mine gave him a high five. I too, then put up my hand and gave him a high five. We made eye contact for a second and he didn't let my hand go. This man then started bursting into tears. Like hysterics. Right in front of me. With the limited Polish I had, I just started nodding to him and saying "it's okay". He then smiled, nodded back at me in thankfulness and left. Now this, as strange as this may seem, this was my experience with God. I don't mean to be all existentialist here, but life can be pretty shit at times, and I think there is a fellowship in that shittyness. Okay rephrase that in English: There's an essence amongst us all that I think is undeniable and that to me is God. Whatever faith, you align yourself with, even if it's no faith at all, we each bring purpose to our lives especially to the people that we meet. There's so much more I could say but I think I should stop there as I have written a short novel. Which is ironic since I have four tasks due between now and next Friday including an extension creative which I haven't finished. So I guess it makes perfect sense to share my religious beliefs at 11pm!!!1

All the best everyone!  :)

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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2017, 05:53:48 pm »
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hiya!
I SERIOUSLY DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW I GOT ONTO THIS THREAD I WAS ON MY WAY TO ENGLISH ADVANCED but I've thoroughly enjoyed reading everyone's spiritual experiences and I think religion and spirituality is so fascinating to discuss! That being said, I thought I would give my two cents!
All the best everyone!  :)


Maria this entire post was a rollercoaster to read, from the caps lock to having sacraments under yo' belt, hahaha. Thanks for sharing! I was annoyed I didn't get to go to World Youth Day in High School, but you're not the first to say it was amazing yet confusing!
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2017, 06:09:00 pm »
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I think why some say they have had an experience with god because we’re pattern seeking mammals. We go throughout our day constantly processing and discarding irrelevant information. When we encounter something beyond our wildest dreams, some of us believe that it’s much more than just a coincidence. The desire to find causes for everything is all too human.

This feels sort of chicken-and-eggish to me. Do humans innately look for religion because we just happen to be pattern-seeking mammals by chance, or were we made to be pattern-seeking by a higher power so that we would interpret things as God-driven and thus believe in this higher power?

I honestly don't know.

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Where do you think your "ihavenofuckingclueist" situation came from? Is it a matter of, sometimes God looks real, and other times not at all? Or is it about Church teachings? Or are other religions throwing some confusing ideas into the mix for you? Of course, you don't need to answer. I'm just probing :)

I've been brought up in an intensely devout Christian household (not Catholic - I know nothing about saints or apparitions or rosaries or incense or temples  haha).

Doing the typical late-teens questioning thing, but deciding not to believe in God would change my whole social/family life and would be a huuuuuuuge step to take.  There's also a lot of peer pressure to not believe in God.  It's complicated and layered deep in guilt and shame. :P

I don't think I can believe in a world without any higher power, though. Everything is too complicated to have come about by chance, in my opinion, and there is always that sense of... the beyond. "All my life, my heart has reached for something I cannot name" sorta thing.



@wales: I've heard similar stories, e.g. someone who after a stroke was unable to say more than three words, but who at her daughter's wedding soon before her death was able to sing a song beautifully and perfectly. Also - thank you for sharing something so close to you; it must be hard.
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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2017, 08:08:35 pm »
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Onto my experience. Only recently I had my mother pass away. She was diagnosed with Stage 3 Cancer and the survival chances were incredibly slim. Soon after the diagnosis she underwent intense chemotherapy and other various treatments but to no avail. It wasn't long after she was restricted to the confines of the hospital. The cancer was diagnosed in June and spent July til November organizing everything she had to from the hospital. It was far too quick honestly. Towards December she was unconscious. She would hardly open her eyes or talk at all, the cancer had taken over her brain and motor skills. It was hard to watch, it really was. Nights spent at her bedside scared shitless that breath may be her last. I'm just glad it was school holidays at the time so I could spend the time there. It was one day Mid December we had a Priest from a friends Parish come in and talk, bless and pray for her and our family. Along with my family he also sang some songs for her, religious I assume. Keep in mind at this point she spent the entire day lying down with an oxygen mask on. Eyes shut. Struggling for breath. When the Priest was singing, according to my grandparents, aunt and the Priest my mother opened her eyes and made an effort to join in singing and even mustered a few words. It may not sound like much but watching her every day lying there lifeless this was something I couldn't fathom. It seemed impossible, that somebody who was bedridden with cancer and unconscious would be able to still respond in that manner. I was never a strict believe in Christ despite going to a Catholic High School, I still can't say I am but after that encounter it's hard to believe that God does not exist in some form. I was more baffled then happy. It's moments like this where you really take a step back and think, what the hell just happened?
I feel this on so many levels and definitely know the scared shitless feeling very well. -sends hugs-

I'm super late to the bandwagon here, but I have definitely have had some encounters of my own, some good and some not good.

Here goes:
1. Five years ago, my aunt died from an advanced-stage breast cancer, which turned into a secondary bone cancer. She was one of my closest family members and every time I visited her in hospital, she was progressing from being able to cuddle my (then) young cousins, to literally barely able to open her eyes, it was quite shattering and it really did scare me. The last time I saw here, 6 weeks before she died (because I had school and it was quite hard to get to the hospital she was at), as I left the room, it went completely bright. My grandma, who saw this too, believed it was a sign from God. From what I remember, the last moments of her life, she had a bright look on her face as she quietly slipped away.

2. All 3 of my siblings are somewhat considered "miracle babies". That's because I was the only child before my mum also was diagnosed with cancer. I'm just lucky that mum's still around, after both that time, and the other time she was diagnosed. At the time of the first bout, it was considered so unlikely for mum to have anymore kids, however, she defied the odds etc and all the older people in my neighbourhood (who are mostly devout Christians- one of them was my primary school RE teacher) thought they were "miracles sent from God himself". (Not meaning to blow my own trumpet here- I find my siblings a pain sometimes, honestly)

3. This is more church-related than experience-related but still an experience- I was treated fairly poorly by my then-church. It made me actually question if I was in the wrong and I went down a really dark path for a long time, before finding my way again. :)

(Not looking for sympathy, nor trying to one-up anyone :) )
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Re: Have you had an experience with God?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2017, 09:57:11 pm »
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A very interesting topic indeed,

My answer slightly strays from the topic, but perhaps people are interested in learning about the religion I follow since it is not very common,

I am neither Christian nor muslim nor hindu (well, not completely)

I'm part of a sub-branch of hinduism.

I do believe in God, however not necessarily the overarching person that controls everything and is the creator of the universe.

I'm a believer in non-violence as one of the most fundamental principles in my life. This does not just apply for humans, but with animals, insects, microorganisms. (I am a vegan myself)

The reason why have chosen to follow this principle is:

I don't believe that I have any more right than anyone else in this world to live. I feel like there is a soul in every living species which deserves every right to enjoy life - regardless if we can appreciate or relate with them, but chickens, cows, pigs etc have lives in them. I believe I could have been one of those animals.

So then I think, well, if this is the case, why was I born as a human, while animals were born as, well, animals. I think there's a cycle of life and death we undergo, rebirths. Perhaps I was kind in my previous life to deserve human birth in this life.

Perhaps Equality, compassion and peace would be what I strive for everyday