Difference between HSC and VCE?

[keltingmeith]

But going back to my question at jamonwindeyer so would a student planning to study Engineering have to study Specialist Math or would Methods suffice (counting the fact that they don't want to struggle in any topics in Uni).

Am I good enough to be Jamon?

Methods would definitely suffice. Almost certainly there will be some things they won't know (integration by parts, I'm looking at you), but most universities have resources set up KNOWING that there will be people who didn't do HSC. Even then, high school maths is by far the easiest subject to self teach, by sheer mass of all the free resources littered around the internet.

[RuiAce]

Am I good enough to be Jamon?

Methods would definitely suffice. Almost certainly there will be some things they won't know (integration by parts, I'm looking at you), but most universities have resources set up KNOWING that there will be people who didn't do HSC. Even then, high school maths is by far the easiest subject to self teach, by sheer mass of all the free resources littered around the internet.

At least, all the necessities.

Good luck self teaching topic 8 in MX2.

[jamonwindeyer]

Am I good enough to be Jamon?

Methods would definitely suffice. Almost certainly there will be some things they won't know (integration by parts, I'm looking at you), but most universities have resources set up KNOWING that there will be people who didn't do HSC. Even then, high school maths is by far the easiest subject to self teach, by sheer mass of all the free resources littered around the internet.

Jamon tick of approval If you go in with basic knowledge of Calculus, you'll make it through, could it be a little easier with Spesh? Maybe, since you've been exposed to more, but at the end of the first semester you'd be back on even playing field I'd say!

[keltingmeith]

At least, all the necessities.

Good luck self teaching topic 8 in MX2.

I mean, induction is easy. The other two even then are just learning to think, which comes with practice and is often done better without a teacher. It's like ice skating - if you spend your whole session on the wall, you'll never learn how to move without it.

[RuiAce]

I mean, induction is easy. The other two even then are just learning to think, which comes with practice and is often done better without a teacher. It's like ice skating - if you spend your whole session on the wall, you'll never learn how to move without it.

Nope.

Induction, circle geometry and inequality proofs do not make up the entire topic, even though they're what's specified in the syllabus.

I have seen:
- proof by contradiction
- telescoping sums
- advanced manipulation of geometric series
- very strange substitutions in limits
- squeeze law
- induction mixed with every single topic out there
- the wildest shit possible with combinatorics

and more. Like, when I look at them now I can do the majority. But when you're not necessarily introduced to any of that stuff altogether, and you have to jump straight into moderate-advanced difficulty questions without a warm-up, for a Yr 12 student that's daunting.

[jamonwindeyer]

I mean, I think this is all very much a matter of opinion. Clearly no one here is right or wrong

[Anonymous_]

Alright, thanks for the info.

[GalacticProcess]

It's like ice skating - if you spend your whole session on the wall, you'll never learn how to move without it.

I have no relevance to this thread, but I just love what meltingkeith said.