VCE English Exam Discussion and Questions 2017

[kjade]

From the above, no, they did it. You thought you did.

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[exopotato]

I wouldn't worry. If you used lots of good evidence with insightful analysis, it shouldn't matter. Especially if you provided a good knowledge analysis in the last paragraph to separate you from other similar responses. As in, perfectly argued, a response with your structure could still get a 10

I wouldn't worry. If you used lots of good evidence with insightful analysis, it shouldn't matter. Especially if you provided a good knowledge analysis in the last paragraph to separate you from other similar responses. As in, perfectly argued, a response with your structure could still get a 10

HAHAHAHA omg thank you you've given me more hope

[tigerlily28]

Did anyone do Measure for Measure for section A? I did the second prompt about the duke achieving justice though manipulation and disguise, but i wasn't sure about my three arguments. If anyone else did this prompt, can you briefly outline your three arguments? Thanks

[tigerlily28]

Honestly, went better than I thought it woul, language analysis was good although I think there were certain parts I could have written better. Text response I did measure for measure and was so prepared for a Duke question and actually smiled when I saw that one (who the hell smiles in an english exam wtf 😂), competitive I did 1984 and Stasiland, wasn’t too happy with the topics but was able to make the one on rewriting history work. Not overly sure mark wise but hopefully I’ll be happy with it in December.

Just out of curiosity - did anyone choose the topic on women for measure for measure? I personally thought it’d be quite difficult to write on and everyone I’ve spoken with so far has agreed and wrong on the Duke too

So relieved that English is over now though

I did Measure for Measure for Section A, but was tossing up between the Duke question and the women one........both were different to what i was expecting. I know heaps of my friends did the women one because they felt the Duke question was very restrictive because it only focuses on his "disguise and manipulation". Eventually i did the Duke one. Out of curiosity what were your three arguments?

[tigerlily28]

One more question guys.........i didn't write a conclusion for Section C. Will marks be deducted? If so how many? Is it still possible to score at least an 8-10 for that section? Pls help

[K888]

One more question guys.........i didn't write a conclusion for Section C. Will marks be deducted? If so how many? Is it still possible to score at least an 8-10 for that section? Pls help

Nope, a conclusion doesn't matter in Section C.
Definitely possible to still be scoring an 8-10 (provided your analysis is good), as it won't actually affect your marks.

[Joseph41]

A COPY OF THE EXAM.

[Seamus212205]

Is anyone going to mention Mabo? I thought topic i. was pretty easy imo, could talk about lots as it was a 'discuss' prompt - talked about influence and guidance of Meriam culture, then Netta of course and finally the motivation drawn from the protectionist policies and paternalistic nature of the government through Killoran and basically how all of them kept Eddie on track and reminded him of his goal, etc. Not sure how everyone else felt though!

Also TC/YOW Comparative was reasonable, chose topic i. and talked about social structure, religious + superstitious beliefs and personal motivations as ideas explored by both authors with regards to victimisation and blame.

For Part C, I used the motto with the logo somehow, and used negative connotations with the black plastic bags and death as well as the smog-filled sky with pollution. Not sure however! Hope everyone is happy with how they went

[HubHub]

Thank you, K888! Yeah, I'm hoping it isn't as bad as I recall.

[pha0015]

just wanted to point out that the logo of the school was supposed to be ironic, as it represents the environment and is placed in a text that talks about littering and therefore juxtaposes with the pic of the rubbish

[Willba99]

just wanted to point out that the logo of the school was supposed to be ironic, as it represents the environment and is placed in a text that talks about littering and therefore juxtaposes with the pic of the rubbish

Can't help but disagree here. I don't think a school board, when deciding on a particular logo for a school, would decide on a particular image just to support an article the principal writes. However, I think you're well within your writes to incorporate the logo into your analysis as it may have had an effect on an audience. I'm not sure if this effect was ironic per se but yeah there's definitely something there to talk about.

Thank god English is over lol

[cscarz]

Mate it isn't a real school. Of course the logo was formulated to be ironic. When you structure your section C you don't incorporate real school common sense... english is a stupid game and you have to play it.

[HubHub]

Hi guys,
what happens if you didn't finish your essay? A lecturer came to our school and told us that you get a 1/10, despite the quality of the present written work. I wrote an intro and two really long body paragraphs (only the intro and the first were completely done, the last paragraph was a scrambled mess and I don't recall it sounding 'finished', I just tried to fit in as much textual knowledge as possible before the last five minutes were up) for the text response, I probably wrote 5-6 pages for those alone but I'm still not sure if it would suffice for an actual mark or whether it would be counted as 'incomplete'. Any help or advice??? Now I'm really panicking....

[clarke54321]

Hi guys,
what happens if you didn't finish your essay? A lecturer came to our school and told us that you get a 1/10, despite the quality of the present written work. I wrote an intro and two really long body paragraphs (only the intro and the first were completely done, the last paragraph was a scrambled mess and I don't recall it sounding 'finished', I just tried to fit in as much textual knowledge as possible before the last five minutes were up) for the text response, I probably wrote 5-6 pages for those alone but I'm still not sure if it would suffice for an actual mark or whether it would be counted as 'incomplete'. Any help or advice??? Now I'm really panicking....

Hello!

Like I've written on previous posts, and as many other AN members have affirmed, there is no major issue with an incomplete essay. The fact that you were able to write 5-6 pages is an achievement in itself. It shows the examiners that you did have adequate textual knowledge, an overarching interpretation and well-justified arguments to support this. I highly doubt that an essay would only achieve 1/10 for this amount of writing. I've personally never heard of such a belief. By no means am I qualified to give potential marks out, but I don't think your essay (provided that it adequately hits the criteria- which it sounds like it does) would be out of the high range.

So please try and not to stress too much. I know this is easier said than done as a current year 12 student myself  You will be surprised with what you have achieved.

[K888]

Hi guys,
what happens if you didn't finish your essay? A lecturer came to our school and told us that you get a 1/10, despite the quality of the present written work. I wrote an intro and two really long body paragraphs (only the intro and the first were completely done, the last paragraph was a scrambled mess and I don't recall it sounding 'finished', I just tried to fit in as much textual knowledge as possible before the last five minutes were up) for the text response, I probably wrote 5-6 pages for those alone but I'm still not sure if it would suffice for an actual mark or whether it would be counted as 'incomplete'. Any help or advice??? Now I'm really panicking....

Big +1 to what clarke54321 just said! What that person told you just simply isn't true.
If you scroll back through the thread you'll find a few replies like this - you can definitely score highly without finishing your essays - there's a number of people on the forums who can attest to that!

What really matters is your ability to develop ideas, show your knowledge of the text and create a coherent analysis - if you can do that over a full essay, then great! But it's also okay if you show that over the course of an incomplete essay. There's not actually a box in the criteria that says "must have a completed essay"!

So yeah, moral of the story is: don't stress - you're not going to get a 1/10 for not finishing an essay, you can still even score in the 40s, and yeah, just the best thing to do is forget about it and enjoy your holidays! Sounds like you did a pretty good job, so I think you can be proud of yourself

Here's a few responses from earlier in this thread:
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(3) (this one has the marking criteria for each section of the exam)