Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

October 17, 2025, 09:15:08 am

Author Topic: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions  (Read 62743 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

messi10

  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 32
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #105 on: November 09, 2017, 08:07:09 pm »
0
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/kxpfx9qu2c
To those who have experience, is this graph used to predict study score for methods accurate???
thanks

Pinkydoo

  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 51
  • Respect: +1
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #106 on: November 09, 2017, 08:26:15 pm »
0
34/40 Exam 1
66/80 Exam 2
SACs Lowish A+, ranked quite highly in a competitive cohort, SACs get scaled up by quite a lot

Can I possibly get a 40?  ???

skrrrt

  • Fresh Poster
  • *
  • Posts: 3
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #107 on: November 09, 2017, 08:34:51 pm »
+1
Did anyone answer with dilate by a factor of 1/loge2 from the y/x axis instead of 1/k ?  :(

Pinkydoo

  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 51
  • Respect: +1
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #108 on: November 09, 2017, 08:38:04 pm »
+1
Did anyone answer with dilate by a factor of 1/loge2 from the y/x axis instead of 1/k ?  :(

Nope, sorry mate

laws12

  • Fresh Poster
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #109 on: November 09, 2017, 08:42:26 pm »
0
Sac's are a low A+, about 92% in an average cohort
Exam 1- 36/40
Exam 2- 67/80

What do you reckon I've copped, many thanks

TwoStepStepOut

  • Fresh Poster
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #110 on: November 09, 2017, 09:02:08 pm »
+2
Found today's exam to be quite challenging. Disappointed at the lack of a Tasmania Jones question.

However, I started thinking about this when I was completing the Ferris Wheel question:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Onw7VStieb8

edit: Spelling error.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2017, 11:54:00 am by TwoStepStepOut »

princessofpersia

  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 58
  • Respect: +16
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #111 on: November 09, 2017, 09:30:52 pm »
+3
Seems like VCAA is deciding to change their game a bit. The E.Respose questions required a lot of brain power, compared to the previous years. I feel like they were trying testing how how far we understand the complexities of grapghs, rather than knowing the basics such as stationary points, asymptotes etc. of functions

imo they should have given us a heads up about the change (at methods PDs), b/C I expected the exam to to be similar to last years since the curriculum changed last year not this year, and after doing all those trial exams particular patterns of questions (from over the years) become embedded in our minds, and today's exam didn't really conform to that style.

ZNormal

  • Adventurer
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #112 on: November 09, 2017, 09:38:30 pm »
0
Hey guys, I don’t do spesh but for the question where it asked for where the rate of change is at its maximum, I double derived the function. I didn’t realise this was double deriving was spesh(I think??) so will they still give me marks?

Sine

  • Werewolf
  • National Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *****
  • Posts: 5132
  • Respect: +2103
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #113 on: November 09, 2017, 09:40:39 pm »
0
Hey guys, I don’t do spesh but for the question where it asked for where the rate of change is at its maximum, I double derived the function. I didn’t realise this was double deriving was spesh(I think??) so will they still give me marks?
vcaa has been pretty vague on whether double deriving is ok. However on last years e1 for a local minimum question it wasn't listed as a possible technique so I don't think you can get marks. It really depends on the assesors that you get imo

jazzycab

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 158
  • Respect: +19
  • School: WHS
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2017, 10:06:54 pm »
+2
Any correct mathematics is acceptable, regardless of whether it's in the course or not so second derivative is fine

dowe

  • Adventurer
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2017, 10:15:43 pm »
0
14/40 Exam 1
48/80 Exam 2
SACs Lowish A+, ranked secondish in a (myself included) dismal cohort

Any chance for a 30?

Conic

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 427
  • Very eccentric.
  • Respect: +42
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #116 on: November 09, 2017, 10:16:58 pm »
+1
Hey guys, I don’t do spesh but for the question where it asked for where the rate of change is at its maximum, I double derived the function. I didn’t realise this was double deriving was spesh(I think??) so will they still give me marks?

I don't see any problems with this type of approach. It seems like you just applied standard results about maxima and minima from the study design to a function that happens to be the derivative of another function. The use of double derivatives tends to be more of an issue when students use them to classify stationary points, which doesn't seem to be what you did.
2012-13: VCE at Parade College (Chemistry, English, Mathematical Methods, Physics and Specialist Mathematics).
2014-16: Bachelor of Science at La Trobe University (Mathematics and Statistics).
2017-17: Bachelor of Science (Honours) at La Trobe University (Mathematics).
2018-21: PhD at La Trobe University (Mathematics).

ZNormal

  • Adventurer
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #117 on: November 09, 2017, 10:41:19 pm »
+1
Any correct mathematics is acceptable, regardless of whether it's in the course or not so second derivative is fine
I don't see any problems with this type of approach. It seems like you just applied standard results about maxima and minima from the study design to a function that happens to be the derivative of another function. The use of double derivatives tends to be more of an issue when students use them to classify stationary points, which doesn't seem to be what you did.
vcaa has been pretty vague on whether double deriving is ok. However on last years e1 for a local minimum question it wasn't listed as a possible technique so I don't think you can get marks. It really depends on the assesors that you get imo

Thank you so much guys :)

dk1234

  • Adventurer
  • *
  • Posts: 7
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2017, 01:25:43 am »
0
Hi,
what kind of a ss would exam 1 - 30/40 and exam 2 - 56/80 get
thanks
« Last Edit: November 10, 2017, 01:30:24 am by dk1234 »

buquine

  • Fresh Poster
  • *
  • Posts: 4
  • Respect: 0
Re: VCE Maths Methods Exam 2 Discussion/Solutions
« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2017, 01:22:45 pm »
0
Thoughts on if this required any working out? Would just the integer be enough for 2 marks?
2. h.)

Thanks, sorry if this has been answered
2017- VCE
2018- BCom @ UoM