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Maths 2U help- pre calculus
« on: November 25, 2017, 12:29:09 pm »
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Hi there, could you please help me with this question:
Find the point on the curve y= x^2– x+1 at which the tangent has a gradient of 3.

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Re: Maths 2U help- pre calculus
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2017, 01:26:48 pm »
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Hi!

1) Differentiate the equation to find the gradient of the tangent:
y’ = 2x - 1

2) Find x given that the gradient of the tangent is 3:
3 = 2x - 1
2x = 4
x = 2

3) Substitute x = 2 into the original equation:
y = x2 - x + 1
   = 4 - 2 + 1
   = 3

Hope this helps :)
« Last Edit: November 25, 2017, 03:28:24 pm by Jess1113 »
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Re: Maths 2U help- pre calculus
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2017, 05:45:37 pm »
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Hi can someone please help me with this question:
find the equation of the tangent to the curve y=1/3x at the point where x=1/6.
Thanks :)

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Re: Maths 2U help- pre calculus
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2017, 05:51:17 pm »
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find the equation of the tangent to the curve y=1/3x at the point where x=1/6.
Thanks :)
I believe you've missed a power here, because y = 1/3x is not exactly a curve, but a line. (Just letting you know. Try using the 'modify' button on your post with the mistake.) :) 
In order to solve it, it should be similar to the steps Jess1113 has stated previously, with the exception of finding y instead of x at Step 2 of her post.
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Re: Maths 2U help- pre calculus
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2017, 06:02:25 pm »
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Hey there, i double checked the question but there arent any powers anywhere. But do you think it will work if (1/3x) is differentiated using the  quotient rule?

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Re: Maths 2U help- pre calculus
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2017, 06:10:56 pm »
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Hi can someone please help me with this question:
find the equation of the tangent to the curve y=1/3x at the point where x=1/6.
Thanks :)
It's a very similar process to Jess'
To find the equation of the tangent (which you know will be a line) you need to know the gradient and a point on the line. From there you can use y-y1 = m(x-x1)
To find the gradient, simply find the derivative and substitute in the x value (in this case, 1/6)
To find a point on the line, you know the tangent at x=1/6 touches the curve at x=1/6, so substitute this x value into the equation y=1/3x to find the y value where x=1/6. This will be a point on the line.

Hey there, i double checked the question but there arent any powers anywhere. But do you think it will work if (1/3x) is differentiated using the  quotient rule?
I think it was misinterpreted as (1/3)x which is a line, instead of 1/(3x) which is a curve.
You shouldn't need to use the quotient rule - use standard derivatives instead.
1/(3x) can be rewritten as
The quotient rule is best when there are two different expressions involving x on the top and bottom of a fraction, and product rule is for when two expressions involving x are multiplied together.

Note: the quotient and product rule will work even when it's not necessary to use them, it's just time consuming.
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Re: Maths 2U help- pre calculus
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2017, 06:21:21 pm »
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I think it was misinterpreted as (1/3)x which is a line, instead of 1/(3x) which is a curve.
You shouldn't need to use the quotient rule - use standard derivatives instead.
1/(3x) can be rewritten as
Whoops. Clearly been dealing with way too much Further Maths! My apologies.
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Re: Maths 2U help- pre calculus
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2017, 06:31:46 pm »
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Thanks for that Shadowxo, all g AngelWings