Using Unit 1/2 results to predict ATAR

[Yertle the Turtle]

Hi guys,
I've had a fairly decent year this year, but I would like to know what kind of an ATAR I would get, so that I know how much I need to improve to get my ATAR of 95+. How can you use the results you get in Year 11 to predict your ATAR?
(the following marks are averages)
This year I have been scoring as follows:
English: 90%
T&T: 86%
Physics: 75%
Chemistry: 80%
Methods: 92%
Specialist: 94%

What kind of ATAR does this correlate to?

[Sine]

Take the average of all of your SAC scores. Then multiply by 0. Then add 50. There, you have a possible ATAR score, with a 100% uncertainty in it.

but seriously 1/2 results mean nothing people go from 50% --> 50raw others go from 99-100% --> less than 40raw

[Yertle the Turtle]

but seriously 1/2 results mean nothing people go from 50% --> 50raw others go from 99-100% --> less than 40raw

I know, but on the current amount of work in the same subjects, what kind of SS can I expect, and should I work harder for a 95+ ATAR?

[Aaron]

I agree with Sine.

There is a significant difference between Units 1&2 and 3&4. So many factors are considered at the 3/4 level such as cohort (strength, performance etc), your individual dedication and perseverance... and other things.

It would be irresponsible for anybody to provide a prediction based on Year 11 subjects purely because there are so many factors taken into account for a given year.

[Yertle the Turtle]

I agree with Sine.

There is a significant difference between Units 1&2 and 3&4. So many factors are considered at the 3/4 level such as cohort (strength, performance etc), your individual dedication and perseverance... and other things.

It would be irresponsible for anybody to provide a prediction based on Year 11 subjects purely because there are so many factors taken into account for a given year.

In other words, do the best I can, the ATAR will sort itself out next year!

[Aaron]

In other words, do the best I can, the ATAR will sort itself out next year!

Correct.

[Yertle the Turtle]

Correct.

Thank you

[snowisawesome]

but seriously 1/2 results mean nothing people go from 50% --> 50raw others go from 99-100% --> less than 40raw

"people go from 50% --> 50raw others go from 99-100% --> less than 40raw"
How on earth are both of these snenarios even possible, especially the first one, don't year 12 subjects get a lot harder than their year 11 counterparts?

[Joseph41]

"people go from 50% --> 50raw others go from 99-100% --> less than 40raw"
How on earth are both of these snenarios even possible, especially the first one, don't year 12 subjects get a lot harder than their year 11 counterparts?

Effort and motivation in Year 11 does not necessarily correlate with effort and motivation in Year 12.

[Yertle the Turtle]

Effort and motivation in Year 11 does not necessarily correlate with effort and motivation in Year 12.

Many people are overwhelmed by Year 12 intensity and cannot perform to the level that they could in year 11. Some people on the other hand, like a challenge, and actually work better in Year 12.

Moral of the story? Do your best, have a fun year and try not to get snowed under in homework, stay on top of it as much as possible.

[Springyboy]

Hi guys,
I've had a fairly decent year this year, but I would like to know what kind of an ATAR I would get, so that I know how much I need to improve to get my ATAR of 95+. How can you use the results you get in Year 11 to predict your ATAR?
(the following marks are averages)
This year I have been scoring as follows:
English: 90%
T&T: 86%
Physics: 75%
Chemistry: 80%
Methods: 92%
Specialist: 94%

What kind of ATAR does this correlate to?

No idea - just keep trying your best and you'll get the ATAR you desire.

[Bri MT]

"people go from 50% --> 50raw others go from 99-100% --> less than 40raw"
How on earth are both of these snenarios even possible, especially the first one, don't year 12 subjects get a lot harder than their year 11 counterparts?

I can vouch for the second one.
  Year 11 me: goes into the exams w/o a summary book and borrows a CAS 5 minutes before hand yet gets 100%
  Year 12 me: goes into my first methods SAC having done all of the relevant checkpoints qs for it yet gets 53%. Ended up getting a below 40 study score too.

Year 12 is different - invest your energy into improving your results rather than into predicting them.

[snowisawesome]

I can vouch for the second one.
  Year 11 me: goes into the exams w/o a summary book and borrows a CAS 5 minutes before hand yet gets 100%
  Year 12 me: goes into my first methods SAC having done all of the relevant checkpoints qs for it yet gets 53%. Ended up getting a below 40 study score too.

Year 12 is different - invest your energy into improving your results rather than into predicting them.

So methods in year 12 is a lot harder than year 11 methods and to get a good study score in methods natural talent beats hard work?

[brenden]

So methods in year 12 is a lot harder than year 11 methods and to get a good study score in methods natural talent beats hard work?

Not the case.

[Quantum44]

So methods in year 12 is a lot harder than year 11 methods and to get a good study score in methods natural talent beats hard work?

Actually I found a lot of the content from Methods 1/2 was recycled in 3/4 and repackaged with a greater focus on applying knowledge to difficult analytical questions. Thus in 3/4, it’s not so much learning the maths, but learning how to use the maths. The exception to this would be probability and statistics, where most of it is only covered in 3/4. There’s no doubt that natural ability comes into play, but a lot of it comes down to study and practice.