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KidwaiMaaz001

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Comparing SCHS's VCE and NAPLAN performance
« on: December 30, 2017, 11:44:15 pm »
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I understand that they aren't exactly the same thing, but they shouldn't be so drastically different. SCHS ranks 4th in the state in NAPLAN, and yet only had the 51st best ATAR median in 2016. We compare SCHS to schools like MHS where they rank identically in NAPLAN and yet MHS wipes the floor with SCHS come VCE time. Why is this?

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Re: Comparing SCHS's VCE and NAPLAN performance
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2017, 11:54:24 pm »
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NAPLAN is a rubbish measure that is standardised and does not consider personal circumstances at the time of test taking, disadvantage etc.

I am also fairly sure it does not include students who were absent on the day of a particular test (e.g. numeracy, spelling, writing etc). It can also be manipulated, in the sense that some schools dedicate weeks to prepare for the NAPLAN entirely (I know a few that do this, just for them to look good on paper). That would indicate an ability to rote-learn rather than genuine achievement.

I don't believe NAPLAN results accurately indicate or predict success at VCE. There is a massive gap between Year 9 (the final year the NAPLAN is conducted) vs. end of Year 12 when ATARs/VCE results are released. Obviously, somebody who achieves high in NAPLAN (e.g. a Band 10) is more likely to do well come VCE, but it certainly is not guaranteed.

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Comparing SCHS's VCE and NAPLAN performance
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2017, 08:41:00 am »
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AFAIK Suzanne Cory has a policy to spend no time preparing for both the naplan or the gat as it is a personal achievement indicator. While teachers are approachable for answering questions they never cover how to do well in class.

As for the discrepancy, like the person above me said NAPLAN isn’t a very great indicator. I even believe that the selective entry test isn’t a great indicator. I know people who got in and now are performing much worse than those that failed miserably.
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Re: Comparing SCHS's VCE and NAPLAN performance
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2017, 11:18:38 am »
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Re: Comparing SCHS's VCE and NAPLAN performance
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 12:32:06 pm »
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As a current student I couldn't agree more on the laziness part. But I think this can be viewed as a positive. Further on in uni no professor is going to hold your hand. Therefore I actually don't believe in hovering teachers. Teachers should be a resource, not an authority.

As a student of the 2018 Graduates i'm expecting big things from this cohort. We have some really talented students.
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Further Maths: 50
Chemistry: 46
Legal: 40
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