[split] Discussion of Christian denominations

[Poet]

Ever heard of the Christadelphians (the denomination/cult/whateveryouwannacallit I was brought up in)?

Hell yeah.
Wooaahh I literally can't talk to you anymore (if I was part of my fam's belief system). According to the denomination/cult/whateveryouwannacallit I was brought up in, your theology is fundamentally flawed.
I was brought up getting told you guys were a cult and a wrong cult at that.
Oh, this could be fun.

[heids]

Hell yeah.
Wooaahh I literally can't talk to you anymore (if I was part of my fam's belief system). According to the denomination/cult/whateveryouwannacallit I was brought up in, your theology is fundamentally flawed.
I was brought up getting told you guys were a cult and a wrong cult at that.
Oh, this could be fun.

Hahahaha what group were you brought up in?  This intrigues me.

[clovvy]

Hell yeah.
Wooaahh I literally can't talk to you anymore (if I was part of my fam's belief system). According to the denomination/cult/whateveryouwannacallit I was brought up in, your theology is fundamentally flawed.
I was brought up getting told you guys were a cult and a wrong cult at that.
Oh, this could be fun.

I suspect a non-denominational or a protestant type? I was brought up Catholic by my mom (yeah my family is divided, only my mom is actually Catholic)... I did renounce my Catholic faith at some point and choose to take protestanism or non-denominational but it gets hellish from there... so I did renounce my faith altogether, story is complicated and too personal to share in forums like this

insanipi edit: Fixed thread title

[Poet]

Hahahaha what group were you brought up in?  This intrigues me.

I suspect a non-denominational or a protestant type? I was brought up Catholic by my mom (yeah my family is divided, only my mom is actually Catholic)... I did renounce my Catholic faith at some point and choose to take protestanism or non-denominational but it gets hellish from there... so I did renounce my faith altogether, story is complicated and too personal to share in forums like this

On the money. Veeery strong Baptist. So, Protestant Christian. But, like, pretty extreme.
You know, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one? And anyone who says otherwise are banished?

edit: oh, and on that note, I know basically any Christian song you can throw at me. :3

[technodisney]

Ever heard of the Christadelphians (the denomination/cult/whateveryouwannacallit I was brought up in)?

I just googled and read most of the wikipedia page on Christadelphians (I have never heard of them until 10 minutes ago).

I fail to see how it could be a cult. As far as I can tell they just reject a few of the concepts in the bible saying they were lost in translation. As a person who has grown up in a christian household, both grandpas being pastors and currently going to church multiple times a week with strong beliefs, yeah I may not agree with some of the beliefs but I don't see how that means you are a cult and "evil".

TLDR: How are you classified as a cult?

[Poet]

I just googled and read most of the wikipedia page on Christadelphians (I have never heard of them until 10 minutes ago).

I fail to see how it could be a cult. As far as I can tell they just reject a few of the concepts in the bible saying they were lost in translation. As a person who has grown up in a christian household, both grandpas being pastors and currently going to church multiple times a week with strong beliefs, yeah I may not agree with some of the beliefs but I don't see how that means you are a cult and "evil".

TLDR: How are you classified as a cult?

This. In a more rigid area of Christianity, anyone who rejects some of the fundamental concepts found in the Holy Scriptures (like denying the common opinion that God is 'three in one' as Christadelphians are apparently doing) is classified as following a belief system of their own making, and thus, they are classified as a minor 'cult', at least where I grew up. Cults aren't always dark and full of mass killings, just a small sect with particular beliefs.
Fascinating concept. We should really make a separate thread, though.
Or I'll just explain it to you at school tomorrow lol

[heids]

You know, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one? And anyone who says otherwise are banished?

religious off-topic

Oh yeah, so it's the Trinity that's the primary dividing factor as per usual.

For once I agree with my upbringing on this topic; if I were to believe the Bible, the Trinity simply doesn't make any sense, and it's so well established historically that it only came in as a politically-driven idea a couple of hundred years after Jesus's death. Like, I can't even see where it would come from as a concept in the Bible.

The Christadelphians' other unique doctrines/theology don't all make sense to me.

But since
a) I have no idea whether to believe in God/the Bible at all, and
b) I don't see why believing different things on that is important as there's really very little actual distinction,
I don't really care lol.

I just googled and read most of the wikipedia page on Christadelphians (I have never heard of them until 10 minutes ago).

I fail to see how it could be a cult. As far as I can tell they just reject a few of the concepts in the bible saying they were lost in translation. As a person who has grown up in a christian household, both grandpas being pastors and currently going to church multiple times a week with strong beliefs, yeah I may not agree with some of the beliefs but I don't see how that means you are a cult and "evil".

TLDR: How are you classified as a cult?

The differences are deeper than that; a lot of things are done differently almost for the sake of being different from other churches.  It's exclusive too, as with various other niche groups, definitely no ecumenism and no out-of-christadelphian dating or whatever.

But yeah, no one inside this denomination calls it a cult.  Only those outside. I can't see that christos are evil, no matter how much I disagree with a lot of it.

Though the length of denomination name is pretty evil and should be banned.

[clovvy]

edit: oh, and on that note, I know basically any Christian song you can throw at me. :3

Heard of Joshua Aaron (well he is a messianic jew anyway)? The world of the abrahamic religion is just too much for me

[peterpiper]

Though the length of denomination name is pretty evil and should be banned.

Yeah, I agree. Whoever thought of the name should be fired immediately.

[heids]

Yeah, I agree. Whoever thought of the name should be fired immediately.

Obligatory recital I've learnt from the age of three or so: "you know Philadelphia? It means brothers in love or brotherly love, phila = love and delphia = brothers in the Greek.  So we're 'brothers in Christ', geddit? No, not Christian dolphins. Christian brothers*."

*I accidentally typed brothe4s. Is that a way of censoring 'brothels'?

[technodisney]

This. In a more rigid area of Christianity, anyone who rejects some of the fundamental concepts found in the Holy Scriptures (like denying the common opinion that God is 'three in one' as Christadelphians are apparently doing) is classified as following a belief system of their own making, and thus, they are classified as a minor 'cult', at least where I grew up. Cults aren't always dark and full of mass killings, just a small sect with particular beliefs.
Fascinating concept. We should really make a separate thread, though.
Or I'll just explain it to you at school tomorrow lol

Haha yeah. Just explain it to me tomorrow. Will probably be best. As I have like a million questions about this. haha.

The differences are deeper than that; a lot of things are done differently almost for the sake of being different from other churches.  It's exclusive too, as with various other niche groups, definitely no ecumenism and no out-of-christadelphian dating or whatever.

But yeah, no one inside this denomination calls it a cult.  Only those outside. I can't see that christos are evil, no matter how much I disagree with a lot of it.

Though the length of denomination name is pretty evil and should be banned.

The page I read didn't mention those elements of exclusivity. That is interesting. I think I'm gonna read up on them a bit more. In a year I might have a knowledge on cults as this sort of stuff is actually very interesting to me. haha

I think I just made a big mess deleting and reposting this post. I think i've fixed it up now though . (I hope)

[heids]

The page I read didn't mention those elements of exclusivity.

Heaven forbid I date a Baptist or Anglican or SDA or JW or Lutheran or Greek Orthodox or Catholic or United Churcher or Pentecostal!   Gotta go the whole hog and inbreed as much as possible.

[PhoenixxFire]

As someone who grew up entirely without religion, this entire thread is fascinating. I always wondered if they were supposed to be the same person but apparently it depends who you ask 🤷‍♀️

[technodisney]

Heaven forbid I date a Baptist or Anglican or SDA or JW or Lutheran or Greek Orthodox or Catholic!   Gotta go the whole hog and inbreed as much as possible.

I just find that whole idea of being that restrictive stupid. In my view we should love everyone as equal regardless of Gender, Sexuality, Beliefs or anything else. And that includes not taking control of other peoples lives deciding what they can and can't do in the end it is their lives and we can't be the judge only god is, I have no right to be able to make judgements based off of peoples decisions.

As someone who grew up entirely without religion, this entire thread is fascinating. I always wondered if they were supposed to be the same person but apparently it depends who you ask 🤷‍♀️

Yeah religion gets confusing like that. Everyone has a slightly different belief system even in the same church, I am pretty firm in my own beliefs but i'm open to hearing what other people believe as well, not to judge but to increase my knowledge.

[Poet]

Heaven forbid I date a Baptist or Anglican or SDA or JW or Lutheran or Greek Orthodox or Catholic or United Churcher or Pentecostal!   Gotta go the whole hog and inbreed as much as possible.

But... I was gonna propose...
tbh walking into a Pentecostal church the week after walking into a Presbyterian one was the best moments of my life.

As someone who grew up entirely without religion, this entire thread is fascinating. I always wondered if they were supposed to be the same person but apparently it depends who you ask 🤷‍♀️

Yep! Almost like someone wrote a book that's been translated and re-translated to oblivion and everyone disagrees. But why would anyone think that??

Denominations make some sense, but also none at all.