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Triple-A

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If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« on: June 02, 2018, 06:05:05 pm »
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lets say you've done all your SACS and you've done the GAT and all your SATS and just before exams you die. Would the assessors use the score from the GAT and still give you a ATAR?
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2018, 06:17:27 pm »
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Quote from: Triple-A on June 02, 2018, 06:05:05 pm
lets say you've done all your SACS and you've done the GAT and all your SATS and just before exams you die. Would the assessors use the score from the GAT and still give you a ATAR?
Why would you need the ATAR? So you can practice Med on the Angels?
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2018, 06:48:51 pm »
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doom and gloom convo

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Why would you need the ATAR?
first preference: heaven

In all seriousness: It'd be an interesting discussion point as to what happens when that occurs. Nobody who's tested this out can explain to us what happens but i'm sure there's a doc somewhere that explains it?
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2018, 06:52:20 pm »
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You probably wouldn’t - I’m pretty sure you have to apply to get a derived score?

You’d probably get one if you died after exams but before the atar release date though.
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2018, 02:31:39 pm »
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The real question is - Is your score still ranked alongside other students for the calculation of the ATAR? Or does everyone slide up one to take your place?

Oooooh
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2018, 02:35:10 pm »
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Quote from: jamonwindeyer on June 03, 2018, 02:31:39 pm
The real question is - Is your score still ranked alongside other students for the calculation of the ATAR? Or does everyone slide up one to take your place?

Oooooh
you are ranked alongisde anyone who started year 7 with you so that includes anyone who would dropout and deaths. That's why it's really hard to get a low ATAR since it's mainly people who didn't do anything and why the average ATAR is ~60-65.
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2018, 02:38:16 pm »
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Quote from: Sine on June 03, 2018, 02:35:10 pm
you are ranked alongisde anyone who started year 7 with you so that includes anyone who would dropout and deaths. That's why it's really hard to get a low ATAR since it's mainly people who didn't do anything and why the average ATAR is ~60-65.

I honestly don't know about the deaths one - Like, I know that it's everyone who started in your cohort and all of that stuff. But I wonder how they handle deaths, because technically that is a place taken up by someone who no longer exists?

Wow this is a gloomy discussion, aha

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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2018, 08:29:32 pm »
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Would you have to prove to them that the reason you couldnt do the exam was because you died? Because what i'm thinking of is potentially faking your own death so you don't have to the exam and you get the ATAR afterwards
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2018, 08:38:41 pm »
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Quote from: Triple-A on June 03, 2018, 08:29:32 pm
Would you have to prove to them that the reason you couldnt do the exam was because you died? Because what i'm thinking of is potentially faking your own death so you don't have to the exam and you get the ATAR afterwards
What use would your ATAR be though? All of the Universities would refuse you... Except maybe Transylvania....

You wouldn't exist...
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2018, 08:40:57 pm »
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Quote from: S200 on June 03, 2018, 08:38:41 pm
What use would your ATAR be though?
Just to piss people off that a dead guy maybe got a higher ATAR than them
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2018, 08:59:45 pm »
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I'm not really sure how this would work given that ATAR is a ranking system which ends up affecting various things like scholarships etc. To be honest, it's really not an issue worth thinking about .

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Why would you need the ATAR? So you can practice Med on the Angels?

Quote from: S200 on June 03, 2018, 08:38:41 pm
What use would your ATAR be though? All of the Universities would refuse you... Except maybe Transylvania....

You wouldn't exist...

In response to the unnecessary sarcasm to people that have been in that situation, my school gave a VCE subject award (based on SAC scores) to a student that passed away slightly before the exams, her family collected the award. It was achievement still worth recognising even though someone died. Not saying that it's equivalent to receiving an ATAR since it affects things like scholarships which can deny people of one as a result (if hypothetically they got a 99.95 ATAR for example).
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2018, 09:21:01 pm »
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Quote from: Triple-A on June 03, 2018, 08:29:32 pm
Would you have to prove to them that the reason you couldnt do the exam was because you died? Because what i'm thinking of is potentially faking your own death so you don't have to the exam and you get the ATAR afterwards
I'm not sure if you're serious, but that isn't a very great suggestion for many reasons :P

If you don't get the ATAR you want, you can just transfer...

That is all.
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2018, 09:27:40 pm »
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Quote from: appleandbee on June 03, 2018, 08:59:45 pm
my school gave a VCE subject award (based on SAC scores) to a student that passed away slightly before the exams
finally an answer, i guess we can lock this thread now :P
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2018, 09:32:50 pm »
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Quote from: Triple-A on June 03, 2018, 09:27:40 pm
finally an answer...
That insinuates that transferring from Count Dracula's Uni wasn't the answer? ??? :(
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Re: If you die do you still get an ATAR?
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2018, 09:42:47 pm »
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Quote from: jamonwindeyer on June 03, 2018, 02:38:16 pm
I honestly don't know about the deaths one - Like, I know that it's everyone who started in your cohort and all of that stuff. But I wonder how they handle deaths, because technically that is a place taken up by someone who no longer exists?

Wow this is a gloomy discussion, aha


hmm idk someone dying doesn't change the fact that they started year 7 with that cohort. It is an empty atar but wouldn't really impact anyone else too significantly unless they got 99.9+ for those max scholarships.
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