Further Maths (Exam 1): Discussion, Questions & Potential Solutions

[Bell9565]

another question - If the marks available is 2 but all you have to do is chuck the values in the calculator, do we still get the 2 marks just for putting in the final answer, or does it require showing how you calculated it?
 For example you put the values in the financial solver and you get an answer and then use that answer to calculate the final answer

you can just answer it, if you have the right answer you won't be penalised.
it's a good idea to show working though because lets say you did stuff something up, you'll get 1 mark if you show valid working instead of 0.

[galaxy21]

another question - If the marks available is 2 but all you have to do is chuck the values in the calculator, do we still get the 2 marks just for putting in the final answer, or does it require showing how you calculated it?
 For example you put the values in the financial solver and you get an answer and then use that answer to calculate the final answer

We are always told for these things to write down what we put in the calculator for using financial solver. like write out a list of
N=
I=
Pv=
Pmt=
Fv=
Ppy/Cpy=
and fill that in. That shows that you worked it out, because otherwise you will only get 1 mark out of it.

[InTheWest]

I go to a very average gov school in the west - unfortunately my ranking for sacs is probably just outside top 10 as well. I got As.

I studied hard for the exam and in exam 1 got 39/40.

If i do well in exam 2, can i get above 40 even with poor sac results?

[Lear]

We are always told for these things to write down what we put in the calculator for using financial solver. like write out a list of
N=
I=
Pv=
Pmt=
Fv=
Ppy/Cpy=
and fill that in. That shows that you worked it out, because otherwise you will only get 1 mark out of it.

If you get the right answer you can get 2 marks regardless of whether you put working or not.

However if you get the wrong answer and have no working out you get 0 marks. While if you get wrong answer with working out you get 1. 

[galaxy21]

If you get the right answer you can get 2 marks regardless of whether you put working or not.

However if you get the wrong answer and have no working out you get 0 marks. While if you get wrong answer with working out you get 1.

Are you sure? Usually you need to SHOW the two marks, rather than just an answer. The 2nd mark comes from the working out. Otherwise the question would be worth just 1 mark.

[Lear]

Are you sure? Usually you need to SHOW the two marks, rather than just an answer. The 2nd mark comes from the working out. Otherwise the question would be worth just 1 mark.

Yes, from an examiner source.
You'll also notice the typical 'In questions where more than one mark is available, appropriate working must be shown.' line is absent in further maths exams unlike Methods and Specialist.
However, I do not see why ANYONE would not put working out for questions worth more than 2 marks regardless. It makes no rational sense not to.
I was just pointing out working out is not necessary for the extra mark as you were saying.

[Livthomas]

Difficulty really varies according to who you talk to. Ultimately no one can really tell how ‘hard’ it was by sampling 50 or even 100 people.
If this was indeed harder than previous years the A+ could drop to 35-36 but I, personally, am pretty sceptical about it.

I am pretty sure that a majority found it very difficult (vce discussion page on fb shows it). It’s obvious that this was probably one of the hardest further exams since 2010. I doubt the cut off for A and A+ will remain to that standard. I have a gradual feeling the A range may decrease to around 62-64

[ThomasJordan]

I averaged 89% on my SAC's and got 37/40 on the first exam, if i only drop 3 marks again in the second (A+ on both) will i be able to get above 40 study score? Thanks

[galaxy21]

Yes, from an examiner source.
You'll also notice the typical 'In questions where more than one mark is available, appropriate working must be shown.' line is absent in further maths exams unlike Methods and Specialist.
However, I do not see why ANYONE would not put working out for questions worth more than 2 marks regardless. It makes no rational sense not to.
I was just pointing out working out is not necessary for the extra mark as you were saying.

Oh awesome never would have noticed that! Good to know if I end up rushing for time on Monday, thanks!

[Lear]

I am pretty sure that a majority found it very difficult (vce discussion page on fb shows it). It’s obvious that this was probably one of the hardest further exams since 2010. I doubt the cut off for A and A+ will remain to that standard. I have a gradual feeling the A range may decrease to around 62-64

Look, like I said, difficulty is very subjective and is dependent on who you talk to. And VCE discussion page is not the best place to obtain an idea of that from.
If you want a counter example - from who I've personally talked to it was a very accessible exam and many only lost 0-3 marks (I'd say roughly 80% out of 30 or so people I know)
Again, small, non-random sample size = biased.
However, from my own feelings having done past VCAA i'd expect the grade distribution for this exam to be pretty much the same as last year.
Just my opinion.

[sm123456]

The VCAA stat report shows that to receive an A+ in 2016 you needed 72 while in the 2017 report that was increased to 74 which was expected given last years exam was much easier.

In my opinion, I do believe that VCAA will reduce the mark needed for an A+ because over 1,000 kids complained about the difficulty on fb, not just a few 100

[marauder52]

In my opinion, I do believe that VCAA will reduce the mark needed for an A+ because over 1,000 kids complained about the difficulty on fb, not just a few 100

Except...this happens on VCE discussion after every single exam every year? You only have to go as far as looking at any of the biology, psychology, English threads on there right now to notice this.

Personally I believe 2017 overall had harder questions for exam 1.

[anne198]

i forgot to write the name of the module but shaded in the box, will my answers be considered if i didn't write the name of the module?

[studyingg]

i forgot to write the name of the module but shaded in the box, will my answers be considered if i didn't write the name of the module?

waitttttt u shade the box? I ticked it i think ( dont recall what I did) 

[spursy]

Is a high B+ in coursework, high A in exam 1 and a mid to high A+ in exam 2 be enough to get above 40?