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littlecherry25

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Referring to stimulus material
« on: October 29, 2009, 10:37:00 pm »
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What does this mean exactly?
I thought it just meant somehow incorporate the quotes from stimulus material into your essay
Or does it mean write and build a whole paragraph on the stimulus material ?

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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 10:46:31 pm »
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What does this mean exactly?
I thought it just meant somehow incorporate the quotes from stimulus material into your essay
Or does it mean write and build a whole paragraph on the stimulus material ?


Each quote will usually have a certain theme. Take for example, this quote from 08 vcaa exam q20; "Technology expands the scope and choice about where, when, how and with whom conversations take place." In your essay you would most likely have a paragraph based on technology's influence on language use.

or this one:
"Text allows [people] to have a bit of fun and flirt, and then they can say things they wouldn’t normally say."
You would obviously be talking about 'text', and especially focus on the last part of the quote in your discussion. Maybe talk about people creating a 'false identity' through text, or the exact opposite between people of close social distance. There are many ways in which you can discuss a quote in EL.


another:
"There's no such thing as a demise of language; it changes, language moves in a different direction and
evolves all the time. Where a lot of people see deterioration, I see expressive development. It's this zero
tolerance approach that I don't [agree with]." (David Crystal, Foreign Correspondent, ABC TV, 27
February 2007)

For this one, you would talk about language change, with examples such as teenspeak, ethnolects, etc and focus on discussing that these examples show evolution of language, not the demise of it.
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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 11:01:03 pm »
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When I said using the exact quote, i meant quoting the quote lol
as in
A living language is never fixed. As David Crystal claims "language moves in different direction and evolves all the time". Thus, change in our language is inevitable etc etc etc - CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR ESSAY
but you have incorporated the quote in the essay :)
That's what I meant

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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 11:12:39 pm »
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You do have to quote the quote at least to some extent, using an extract from it is fine as you have done as this was how vate lecturers told us to do it.
You should probably quote the source which is given as well

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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 11:21:56 pm »
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When I said using the exact quote, i meant quoting the quote lol
as in
A living language is never fixed. As David Crystal claims "language moves in different direction and evolves all the time". Thus, change in our language is inevitable etc etc etc - CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR ESSAY
but you have incorporated the quote in the essay :)
That's what I meant


lol, using it like that would be acceptable. I slightly misinterpreted what you were saying. But don't use too much of the quote (or quotes) as it sometimes does not actually help your essay in the way you want. Try and have some 'original' thoughts/be creative in expressing meaning.



You do have to quote the quote at least to some extent, using an extract from it is fine as you have done as this was how vate lecturers told us to do it.
You should probably quote the source which is given as well

According to Derrick Ha, this is not necessary, referring to the ideas in the quotes in enough. Although, in some circumstances it is best to 'quote the quote' briefly.
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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 11:37:01 pm »
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According to Derrick Ha, this is not necessary, referring to the ideas in the quotes in enough. Although, in some circumstances it is best to 'quote the quote' briefly.

u got the derrick ha book too ey?
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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 11:39:00 pm »
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According to Derrick Ha, this is not necessary, referring to the ideas in the quotes in enough. Although, in some circumstances it is best to 'quote the quote' briefly.

u got the derrick ha book too ey?

yep, some really great tips in it!
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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2009, 11:50:01 pm »
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hmm guy who got 50 or some crap lecturer
id go with the guy who got 50

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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2009, 09:31:44 am »
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don't forget they've changed the rules since derrick ha did his exam. this year you MUST refer to the stimulus, before this year you didn't need to.

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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2009, 10:06:05 am »
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don't forget they've changed the rules since derrick ha did his exam. this year you MUST refer to the stimulus, before this year you didn't need to.


yes, but referring is not necessarily directly quoting the stimulus material.
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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2009, 08:38:54 pm »
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Refer
mention: make reference to; "His name was mentioned in connection with the invention"

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Re: Referring to stimulus material
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Refer
mention: make reference to; "His name was mentioned in connection with the invention"


lol, if you said: "David Crystal's view on teenspeak's influence on language use in Australia is that it...." is referring to a quote but not quoting it. Refer just means making a relation to what you are saying and the quote. Hence, there is no need to actually 'quote the quote'.
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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2009, 10:27:27 pm »
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yes agreed that is what refer is defined as but quoting the quote cant be too bad

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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 10:37:19 pm »
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yes agreed that is what refer is defined as but quoting the quote cant be too bad


yeah I totally agree that sometimes actually 'quoting the quote' can greatly benefit your essay, not only making it sound better but can help you start off a paragraph, etc. Adds a bit more class to an essay in some occasion's. My point was that it is o.k to 'quote the quote' but it is not essential to adhere to the new guidelines of 'you MUST refer to the stimulus material', just so people don't 'quote the quote' unnecessarily that might end up having an adverse result.   
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Re: Referring to stimulus material
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2009, 10:47:23 pm »
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yes agreed that is what refer is defined as but quoting the quote cant be too bad

quoting the quote is wins ok :P