Doing well at school = losing friends?

[beezy4eva]

I dunno about losing friends - in my group of friends only a couple cared about doing well as much as I did .... the others kinda slacked off a bit .... I remember 2 of my friends went to an arctic monkeys concert in the middle of their exam period, the idiots.

Arctic Monkeys rock though, so it's understandable

[Mao]

My lit teacher actually did say that the rest of my class did better because of my presence (she might be biased though...), to be honest that felt good. Even though it wasn't the best place for intellectual immersion, I did like my school a lot and most of the people in it. And I always got support from the staff as well, which kind of made up for the otherwise anti-academic environment.

yeah, i got that after the awards night, and i really wanted to escape it
because now i feel responsible for my year level to help them pull through yr12 (as a teacher put to me, help to lift the cohort up), and the guilt that i will have for not having done enough to help when a lot of them dont get the scores they wanted...
bloody hell

[dcc]

Mao, top all the SAC's then do really poorly on the exams, your school will get owned!

[droodles]

drownz is right, but if u do good at sacs and suck at exams, your overall grade will be brought down

[Mao]

Mao, top all the SAC's then do really poorly on the exams, your school will get owned!

thank you for that encouragement, i'll do just that and become a bum

[dcc]

I meant so that noone in your school gets epic marks   Your obviously smart enough to pwn 08 (MATH!)

[sheepz]

My lit teacher actually did say that the rest of my class did better because of my presence (she might be biased though...), to be honest that felt good. Even though it wasn't the best place for intellectual immersion, I did like my school a lot and most of the people in it. And I always got support from the staff as well, which kind of made up for the otherwise anti-academic environment.

yeah, i got that after the awards night, and i really wanted to escape it
because now i feel responsible for my year level to help them pull through yr12 (as a teacher put to me, help to lift the cohort up), and the guilt that i will have for not having done enough to help when a lot of them dont get the scores they wanted...
bloody hell

haha it can get pretty annoying helping people... especially international students... gosh! i mean, i AM friends with them but sometimes im like 'you've gotta try to understand this rather than assume memorising this will let you pass' and they don't listen. they bludge all the way through and the day before the exam i come online and they're like 'omg i've been waiting AGES for you!' making me feel guilty that i try to explain ALL their questions on msn when they don't even understand the terminologies because they don't try to learn/improve their english... as if i don't need to study on the day before the exam >.< i just come online to relax! =P

[brendan]

yeah, i got that after the awards night, and i really wanted to escape it
because now i feel responsible for my year level to help them pull through yr12 (as a teacher put to me, help to lift the cohort up), and the guilt that i will have for not having done enough to help when a lot of them dont get the scores they wanted...
bloody hell

you shouldn't feel responsible at all because you are not. i find it highly insidious to suggest that one student has an obligation to pull up another student. no doubt, if you really wanted to do that, you can, but i don't like this idea of you having a responsibility or an obligation or you feeling guilty. it's ethically compromised. they need to learn for themselves.

[Mao]

yeah, i got that after the awards night, and i really wanted to escape it
because now i feel responsible for my year level to help them pull through yr12 (as a teacher put to me, help to lift the cohort up), and the guilt that i will have for not having done enough to help when a lot of them dont get the scores they wanted...
bloody hell

you shouldn't feel responsible at all because you are not. i find it highly insidious to suggest that one student has an obligation to pull up another student. no doubt, if you really wanted to do that, you can, but i don't like this idea of you having a responsibility or an obligation or you feeling guilty. it's ethically compromised. they need to learn for themselves.

its easy to say, but when they ask you for help you cant really deny them...
it's different from person to person, some more obliged than others...

[dcc]

yeah, i got that after the awards night, and i really wanted to escape it
because now i feel responsible for my year level to help them pull through yr12 (as a teacher put to me, help to lift the cohort up), and the guilt that i will have for not having done enough to help when a lot of them dont get the scores they wanted...
bloody hell

you shouldn't feel responsible at all because you are not. i find it highly insidious to suggest that one student has an obligation to pull up another student. no doubt, if you really wanted to do that, you can, but i don't like this idea of you having a responsibility or an obligation or you feeling guilty. it's ethically compromised. they need to learn for themselves.

its easy to say, but when they ask you for help you cant really deny them...
it's different from person to person, some more obliged than others...

Helping people makes you feel good on the inside mao

[Eriny]

Helping people makes you feel good on the inside mao

Agreed. As long as they aren't annoying and have a pretty good idea of what's going on, I actually like helping people. It usually means that you have a better understanding of what you're learning and it's nice to know that you made a positive difference to someone else's results. That said, it's also true that you aren't responsible for them. I think if I felt responsible for the performance of another student I'd feel pretty resentful.

[brendan]

its easy to say, but when they ask you for help you cant really deny them...
it's different from person to person, some more obliged than others...

if a person asks you for help on a subject, you are well within your rights to refuse to do so. i'm not saying that you can't or you shouldn't, you might very well enjoy it and that's cool too, but i'm saying that you don't have any responsibility or obligation to do so.

[Chocolate]

I think helping your fellow student is a great way to reinforce the ideas not only for who you're helping, but for yourself. In saying that though, you have to distinguish who is truly appreciative of your help and who is just using you because you have a 'greater' understanding than everyone else. There are selfish people out there who will try and latch onto you during year 12, and it's important to avoid that and be cautious of it. It's also essential to keep your concentration on your work, and never feel obligated, as said above. Helping is always a nice gesture though; you never know when you'll need it yourself. Give and you'll receive

[daniel99]

For me, i'm not really loosing friends, its more that we are going different paths. One of my mates decided he wanted to do  a trade and so left school to pursue it. I dont see/talk to him as much but im still mates with him.

Thats like me!!! All of my old good mates left and did trades and tafe etc and i hardly see them anymore. Here and there I do, but we are all different now.

Its good that they left though, so now I concentrate and get good marks, and most of the people at school now are there because they want to be, rather than they have to be.