Clarification for school cohorts??

[confusedparticles]

If a subject at school has more than 1 class, is the ranking for that subject gonna be all of the students taking that subject or will the ranking be based on the individual classes?

[Sine]

If a subject at school has more than 1 class, is the ranking for that subject gonna be all of the students taking that subject or will the ranking be based on the individual classes?

Ranking takes into account everyone at the school not just each individual class

[The Cat In The Hat]

The ranking is also taking into account other schools if they're moderating together, right? I mean we have 3 students in one class and are doing it (though not actually learning together or anything; I don't even know what schools!) as in the SACs ard being done same time/same SAC etc., with two other schools. So we'd be ranked by us and the other schools, right?

[Owlbird83]

The ranking is also taking into account other schools if they're moderating together, right? I mean we have 3 students in one class and are doing it (though not actually learning together or anything; I don't even know what schools!) as in the SACs ard being done same time/same SAC etc., with two other schools. So we'd be ranked by us and the other schools, right?

No for SACs the ranking is purely based on your own school, no others. The teachers may be working together to ensure they are marking fairly, but your ranking/marks are not going to have any connection.

[The Cat In The Hat]

No for SACs the ranking is purely based on your own school, no others. The teachers may be working together to ensure they are marking fairly, but your ranking/marks are not going to have any connection.

I thought there was something about moderation and treating them as one class by VCAA because we aren't a large enough class or something...?

[Sine]

If a school's cohort is sufficiently small enough (usually less than 5 students) they are encouraged to combine with a neighbouring schools cohort. The teachers will then collaborate to creates sacs so that both schools undertake the same sacs. The sacs should then theoretically be on the same day and possibly at the same time. So they will be considered to be 1 cohort. However, this is more of an exception to the rule than anything.

[Owlbird83]

I thought there was something about moderation and treating them as one class by VCAA because we aren't a large enough class or something...?

Sorry, you are right, I'd never heard of it before now. This information goes over school partnership in detail. Starting at page 46.https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/handbook/2020/04admininfoschoolsadhb20.pdf

[keltingmeith]

I thought there was something about moderation and treating them as one class by VCAA because we aren't a large enough class or something...?

I had a similar situation in year 12 doing a subject called Music Investigation - my school had just enough students (as Sine mentioned, 5), but another school didn't. So, the teachers "joined" the two classes so that VCAA could consider the class full for the other school. Tbh, I don't know who the other school was, and I never met the students, because the teachers did things individually still. However, they designed the SACs together, filmed us for presentations, and then would meet up together and decide on marks together so that it was all still fair.

However, what's important to note is that scaling isn't done based on the school - it's based on who's doing the subject. So, yes, you're technically scaled against the other schools - but the only people in those schools doing the subject is one person, so you're being scaled against those people, not everyone else at the school. Similarly, when I did it, I was scaled against everyone in my class, but also the two in the other school - so, I was scaled against the other school, but only the two that did it. There's no point comparing my marks against everyone else's in those schools because even if we shared subjects, we did different SACs, which is the whole point of scaling - to try and normalise the different SACs that every school does.