Why does everyone care about VCE so much?

[kenhung123]

LOL

[monokekie]

ppl want to get in and they try for the sake of it? why won't they grab the closest opportunity,i.e. year 12, to achieve their goal?

[shinny]

Ever thought about that some people actually need to 'study really hard' to even get 70 ENTER in the first place? Or that some people's definition of 'studying really hard' isn't the same as another's? And really, I don't know what you're basing this off. Even being in MHS, I saw plenty of cbf and demotivation prevalent throughout the year with most people just wanting an ENTER enough to scrape into their course, or just not caring about it literally at all and just hoping they'll get into something. At public schools and so on, I further doubt that 'even the sloppiest guy' would be so motivated. There are a select few, but it's not everyone. However for those who do bother, it's a bit like some model I learnt at uni; there's people who are achieving learners who just learn for the sake of competition (quite a large driving factor for me actually), and then there's those who learn because they actually like learning (think of the Maths geniuses on this forum). I think the predominate reason that causes people to start trying is the achieving one where because VCE actually assigns quantitative scores to everything (SAC scores, SS, ENTER etc.), people actually have a drive and a means of comparison at where they stand, and this brings out their competitive spirit I guess. And not to mention of course, that their futures are (apparently?) on the line with regards to their careers and so on. This is a reason which might predominate for those who have a bit more foresight and initiative.

[QuantumJG]

Well if you think about it VCE is a huge milestone for many adolescents.

You are competing with every other student in the state for a ranking. Now for many students this ranking is what will allow them to pursue their dreams. Also it's the last year of your schooling, think of it, you have spent 13 years of your life at school! Don't you want to leave in style? Leave school knowing that you gave it your best shot?

I knew two people at school. One who was really smart and had the potential to do exceptionally well (I'm talking 90+) and another who had to put in a fair amount of work to get a decent mark. The former got a 78 and the latter achieved an 81. The latter achieved this, through hard work, he would spend hours with teachers to understand things he didn't understand, the other was just lazy and put basically no effort into his VCE.

With me I wish I took a page out of my friend's book with my attitude to English. I wasn't a good English student and with a bit of initiative to get help, I would have achieved my personal best in English. What that is I don't know, but the thing is that if you don't put in the  work, you won't get the marks.

The world can be your oyster if you put in the work. As my finance my professor once said: "In finance, you never get a free lunch", but I believe that it's the rule to life.

Anyway your basically an adult now, nobody can tell you what to do with your attitude to VCE or life.

[jaja]

i think even the most sloppiest people try is because no one wants to be embarassed with a crap ENTER score

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There's always gonna be soccer world cups or football premierships, but this is the only time you're going to do VCE in your life, so hell why not give it a go.

[xXNovaxX]

I don't need an ENTER in the 90's, I have the option of going to TAFE, yet I am studying, well STUDIED really hard....it's not as easy to get a 70/80 for an ENTER as you may think. I choose this range as an example, as this is where many courses are located in between....well my ones anyway

In a SAC you get get a 70% with ur eye's closed

When it comes to ENTER, its not a %.....so 70/80 is pretty hard to get....means ur in the top 30-20% OF THE STATE. You do need to work hard to get up into that.

I DO NOT WANT an ENTER of higehr than 85, as stupid as it sounds, I just want the BARE MINIMUM to get into my course....in 1 years time nobody will ever ask "what ENETR did you get". I have no need to get  85%+, Im CAPABLE, but its un-necessary, who am I trying to impress? None otehr than myself, and to me the clearly in, is enough for me

[Cataclysmic]

because it's the end of your life if you don't do well in vce..


because it's an important year and people want to get into the course/university that they want.

[mypurpleundercracka]

There's always gonna be soccer world cups or football premierships, but this is the only time you're going to do VCE in your life, so hell why not give it a go.

hehe not if u live ur life by my philosophy

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[m@tty]

Not everyone cares. But there are alot more who care than in lower secondary. Why? Because this means something, doing well in VCE opens up doors for your future. Still there are some who have no care about VCE, I am not talking about people whose goals are lower than your own for if they have a goal they obviously have some care. Rather I am talking of those who are indifferent to their performance. One guy at my school told me he actually would be unchanged in receiving an ENTER of 99.95 over an ENTER of 50.00, he didn't care at all.

Personally I want to not only get into my desired course but to attain a good scholarship also. This coupled with interest in my subjects is why I care about VCE.

[Eriny]

This isn't the only reason I cared about VCE, but there is a bit of curiosity as well, no? Like in an IQ test or something. How well do I go if I do my best whilst pitted against a wider population?

[ninwa]

- I needed 99+ for my course
- I didn't want my parents going "so-and-so did better than you, why?" (they did that anyway because a family friend got 99.95)
- Bragging rights
- Curiosity as to what I can achieve
- Genuinely wanting to learn for some of my subjects

[IntoTheNewWorld]

- Bragging rights

[Ilovemathsmeth]

LOL well:

- personal satisfaction (plays a very important role for me)
- self esteem
- bragging rights
- competition (omg friend x did so much better on SAC y)
- be free of guilt (oh if only I'd studied more...)
- to get a good job (major!!!) and be richhhh

[Fyrefly]

The world can be your oyster if you put in the work. As my finance my professor once said: "In finance, you never get a free lunch", but I believe that it's the rule to life.

My microeconomics lecturer kept saying that "there's no such thing as a free lunch".
Personally, I'm not sure I fully agree with this and find it a bit pessimistic of the human condition.

You sort of expect it from someone who's been in finance/economics though, and can agree with it purely from a business perspective.

Anywayz... I wanted to do well in VCE to prove to myself that I could.

I also wanted to get the ENTER required for my desired course, and knew that if I didn't get it, but had still done my best, then I would have no regrets.

I can't say I pushed myself to my limit, but I still worked hard... I was very lazy when it came to practice exams though.