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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #225 on: December 29, 2009, 01:55:29 am »
^ I agree, not because of essay, but because I found Methods to be purely about minimizing mark loss rather than problem solving. I could instantly recognize how to solve any exam question (barring some iTute ones) once I read it, there was never a fun puzzle to work through. And Spesh doesn't look like it will be much different.
Yeah very true.

Are you going on that maths camp EZ is going on? Could be some fun questions there ^.^
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #226 on: December 29, 2009, 02:12:52 am »
^ kinda wish i was.
2009
~ Methods (Non-CAS) [48 --> 49.4]

2010
~ Spesh [50 --> 51.6]
~ Physics [50 --> 50]
~ Chem [43 --> 46.5]
~ English [46 --> 46.2]
~ UMEP Maths [5.0]

2010 ATAR: 99.90
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #227 on: December 29, 2009, 09:41:43 pm »
And I think it's a huge mistake that we're all judged on a number instead of our real accomplishments.

At this time of our lives what be our *real accomplishments* apart from that statistic? :P

Our involvement in a range of activities, contributions to the community, actual competitions that test real thinking.. things like that?

Not VCE, by any means.

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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2009, 10:41:29 am »
Natural talent and gift is just excessive exposure very early on.

Takes someone who is called a "math genius" in high school for example, everyone will just assume he/she is naturally talented at maths, no-one will think to ask he/she how much maths they did in primary school. In actuality they did maybe three times, even more, the amount of maths that everyone else did. And at primary school level this isn't very much, maybe 20-30 minutes a day? But after years it adds up - the time spent accumulates to a total that cannot be reached with a single year (Y12) of effort.

It's too limited to just look at work done in Y12. Even if this supposed genius is lazy throughout his/her high-schooling years, his/her years of work during primary school still puts him ahead of the majority half a decade later in Y11/12.

Lol exactly my point of view on the natural talent debate. *Hi 5* :)

However I would like to add that I have allowed my view to have enough leeway for people like Terence Tao who are definitely naturally talented. But otherwise spot on imo

On the topic of English, ilovemathsmeth and others have obviously put in a lot of hard work but achieved below their expectations of themselves. It is natural to be disappointed. In most subjects pure hard work seems to do the trick, but in English it is more often knowing what to do and then putting in the hard work. You need to have a teacher or tutor or somebody who will tell you exactly what to do in a language analysis, how you have to break the article down, make links between parts etc. etc. and then you have to work on it. For context and text response you similarly need effective instruction early on.

For language analysis it helps if you enjoy picking out how the author is trying to position you (giving you a sense of superiority :P ). For context and text response it helps if you enjoy the text, it helps if you actually appreciate what the author is doing. Charles Dickens and Shakespeare were geniuses! You are reading their work, so take some joy out of seeing how they are manipulating every sentence and line. At some points text response was a bit like language analysis only with a whole book. In context you can exercise your imagination a bit. It's a bit idealistic to say English is all fun. It gets boring, it gets tedious and you have to put in a lot of hours. But if you take a little bit of joy in it you can go a long way.

Other things: be brave enough to try out fresh spur-of-the-moment ideas in the exam as these make you stand out, get yourself into a good mindset for concise yet meaningful writing and keep on practicing, plan thoroughly and...yeah can't think of anything else right now.

And of course it helps if you enjoyed writing prior to year 12.

And I think it's a huge mistake that we're all judged on a number instead of our real accomplishments.

At this time of our lives what be our *real accomplishments* apart from that statistic? :P

Our involvement in a range of activities, contributions to the community, actual competitions that test real thinking.. things like that?

Not VCE, by any means.

But what makes you think we are simply judged on our ENTER as opposed to contributions to the community and other competitions. Sure ENTER cutoffs exist for university entrance, but that's about it. Beyond university and heading into employment academic results become less valuable than genuine experience that demonstrates particular qualities. For med aspirants, in fact, this already becomes important.

EZ Edit: Fixed up double post for you.  =)
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #229 on: December 30, 2009, 01:15:27 pm »

But what makes you think we are simply judged on our ENTER as opposed to contributions to the community and other competitions. Sure ENTER cutoffs exist for university entrance, but that's about it. Beyond university and heading into employment academic results become less valuable than genuine experience that demonstrates particular qualities. For med aspirants, in fact, this already becomes important.

Read: At this time of our lives, or more specifically, year 12 students who have just received their VCE results. At this moment, especially among 'elite' competitive circles, one's ENTER is often measured as one's intelligence ('You got 99.6? oh wow, you're so smart!'). For many people, the ENTER score signifies not only what university course they can get into but also their self worth. Completing VCE and getting that statistic is one solid and official 'accomplishment' for people who have not been avid contributors to their communities or, for some reason, have not participated in many (or any) extracurricular competitions.

I agree that genuine experiences eclipse academic results but the sad reality is that we are still judged by how well we do in VCE and a great deal of worked-up significance (by the media, by parents, by peers) is still placed upon these results.



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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #230 on: December 30, 2009, 01:39:30 pm »

But what makes you think we are simply judged on our ENTER as opposed to contributions to the community and other competitions. Sure ENTER cutoffs exist for university entrance, but that's about it. Beyond university and heading into employment academic results become less valuable than genuine experience that demonstrates particular qualities. For med aspirants, in fact, this already becomes important.

Read: At this time of our lives, or more specifically, year 12 students who have just received their VCE results. At this moment, especially among 'elite' competitive circles, one's ENTER is often measured as one's intelligence ('You got 99.6? oh wow, you're so smart!'). For many people, the ENTER score signifies not only what university course they can get into but also their self worth. Completing VCE and getting that statistic is one solid and official 'accomplishment' for people who have not been avid contributors to their communities or, for some reason, have not participated in many (or any) extracurricular competitions.

I agree that genuine experiences eclipse academic results but the sad reality is that we are still judged by how well we do in VCE and a great deal of worked-up significance (by the media, by parents, by peers) is still placed upon these results.

In elite academic circles, students recognize that their ENTER is not a real measure of their intelligence. This is based on my experience and interaction. Those who are very intelligent tend to recognize that their ENTER is something they want to work towards but by no means defines them or anybody else. I do not intend to generalize, but this is what I have found from my experience. And again, many of those academically oriented people who perhaps do not get involved in their community or have achievements in sport, music or debating often seize other opportunities for academic acheivement: eg. olympiads, trying to get medallions and prizes in the huge array of competitions that exist etc. The ENTER is not an end, it is part of a constant pursuit of academic success that will extend into university.

I'm not trying to argue with you, and I agree that it seems the media and other cultural things dictate how we feel about the ENTER. But there's a lot of uni life ahead still, and everyone, from those who didn't do as well as they'd hoped to those who couldn't do any better, would best move on and try and excel in this next endeavour. And I reckon people understand this.

The "what's your ENTER score?"...."oh you're so smart!" does happen and I admit people's perception of others may change based on the ENTER score. But that seems to only make a difference when one's expectations and the person's ENTER differs significantly. In such cases, maybe that person is smarter than you thought they were. I mean it is an academic indicator so fair enough. However people don't go around saying "oh you got 99.65, but he got 99.75, so he's smarter than you I guess". That would be absurd and doesn't happen.

A bit of a rambling post, what was I getting at again? Well I just think that the ENTER doesn't carry too much weight. I think considering it is the result of at least two years of work it is a decent academic indicator that is used fairly.
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #231 on: December 30, 2009, 02:21:28 pm »

The "what's your ENTER score?"...."oh you're so smart!" does happen and I admit people's perception of others may change based on the ENTER score. But that seems to only make a difference when one's expectations and the person's ENTER differs significantly. In such cases, maybe that person is smarter than you thought they were. I mean it is an academic indicator so fair enough. However people don't go around saying "oh you got 99.65, but he got 99.75, so he's smarter than you I guess". That would be absurd and doesn't happen.


In the first semester of first year uni, MOST people talk about ENTER or you get students from other states talking about how their system is better than ours. It dies off after then and I'm guessing you are judged by your first year results in second year (if people care).   
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #232 on: December 30, 2009, 09:37:31 pm »
I hope ENTER doesn't mean anything after you've gotten into Uni >.<
2009
~ Methods (Non-CAS) [48 --> 49.4]

2010
~ Spesh [50 --> 51.6]
~ Physics [50 --> 50]
~ Chem [43 --> 46.5]
~ English [46 --> 46.2]
~ UMEP Maths [5.0]

2010 ATAR: 99.90
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #233 on: December 30, 2009, 09:52:44 pm »
Same here. I'm hoping Uni is a lot more relaxing than VCE.
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #234 on: December 30, 2009, 09:55:11 pm »

You might get asked about your ENTER by a few people during O-Week and first week of uni, just as a sort of conversation starter I guess.
After that, it's kind of lame to talk about ENTERs and such... no-one really cares anymore.


The "what's your ENTER score?"...."oh you're so smart!" does happen and I admit people's perception of others may change based on the ENTER score. But that seems to only make a difference when one's expectations and the person's ENTER differs significantly. In such cases, maybe that person is smarter than you thought they were. I mean it is an academic indicator so fair enough. However people don't go around saying "oh you got 99.65, but he got 99.75, so he's smarter than you I guess". That would be absurd and doesn't happen.


In the first semester of first year uni, MOST people talk about ENTER or you get students from other states talking about how their system is better than ours. It dies off after then and I'm guessing you are judged by your first year results in second year (if people care).   

People usually don't care... you generally exchange results with friends and stuff... maybe people who were in your tute when you see them the following semester, but it's no big issue... people will be happy for you if you pass and sympathise if you fail.
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #235 on: December 30, 2009, 09:56:47 pm »
I know. VCE is well and truly over :D
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #236 on: December 30, 2009, 10:32:30 pm »
I know. VCE is well and truly over :D
Good riddance.

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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #237 on: December 30, 2009, 10:34:15 pm »
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #238 on: December 30, 2009, 10:35:43 pm »
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Re: OFFICIAL VCE ENTER SCORE RESULTS (Class of 2009)
« Reply #239 on: December 30, 2009, 10:36:46 pm »
I know. VCE is well and truly over :D
Good riddance.
for me its just starting :'(

it will b over b4 u know it :P
i hope so :) and i hope at that stage i wont want to go back and redo it cos i screwed up
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