James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE

[m@tty]

Basing subject selection on benefit derived from scaling is not the only reason "students are afraid to fail, afraid to go beyond syllabus requirements, and perhaps even afraid to genuinely learn." You must realise, it is a bigger issue than scaling.

[wildareal]

Yes, what he wants is there to be less subjects; he wants there to be a V IB-Victorian International Baccalaureate.

[m@tty]

I didn't read that. Where did he say that?

[xXNovaxX]

Yes, what he wants is there to be less subjects; he wants there to be a V IB-Victorian International Baccalaureate.

I do not recall him saying that, and that would be crazy because THEN people will only pick subejcts which scale higehr since they cannot choose the MYRIAD of subejcts which they may have an interest in....as which currently exists

Currently we have a LOT of choice= the majroity of people pick subjetcs they like
Less subjects= people do not have a wide choice....people would tend to pick subjects which scale up.

[jay1993]

firstly well done to James Lu,

he killed VCE, oh yeah im pre jealous that he got 5 50's, seeing i dont think i can get 1  
i dont think he picked those subj to prove its flawed. whats the point of picking them because they get scaled if ur just gonna get a 50 anyway (which for some, i realise, still go up any way)

[samuch]

what about germany's system?
everyone has to do every subject........
yes there would be a lot of issues as some people would hate one subject or another but then at least there would be no scaling issues. Also the ENTER formed (not sure what they call it) would be more accurate as both your strengths and weaknesses would be known... ?

[xXNovaxX]

what about germany's system?
everyone has to do every subject........
yes there would be a lot of issues as some people would hate one subject or another but then at least there would be no scaling issues. Also the ENTER formed (not sure what they call it) would be more accurate as both your strengths and weaknesses would be known... ?

That is ridiculous! I just checked out Germany's education system and you do have to do compulsroy subejcts in grade 12

Seriously, THAT would be enough for me to emigrate aka LEAVE Germany. I would never want my children being put through that, and they have to hand in research papers etc.

Can you imagine a pure sports men (likes P.E/ health and human development, out door ed), or a humanities person, being forced to do chem, phsyics, etc..... they would fail hardcore, and I guarantee, and if they dont fail, they'd get like 40-60%.

Thats ridiculous, in VCE i dropped ALL my subjects I did crap in, in order to do what I LIKE, and GOOD at.

[samuch]

what about germany's system?
everyone has to do every subject........
yes there would be a lot of issues as some people would hate one subject or another but then at least there would be no scaling issues. Also the ENTER formed (not sure what they call it) would be more accurate as both your strengths and weaknesses would be known... ?

That is ridiculous! I just checked out Germany's education system and you do have to do compulsroy subejcts in grade 12

Seriously, THAT would be enough for me to emigrate aka LEAVE Germany. I would never want my children being put through that, and they have to hand in research papers etc.

Can you imagine a pure sports men (likes P.E/ health and human development, out door ed), or a humanities person, being forced to do chem, phsyics, etc..... they would fail hardcore, and I guarantee, and if they dont fail, they'd get like 40-60%.

Thats ridiculous, in VCE i dropped ALL my subjects I did crap in, in order to do what I LIKE, and GOOD at.

yes but maybe only the subs that relate to what you want to do later in life is what the unis would look at ?
it does get rid of scaling issues....
but yes all rounders would benefit

[EvangelionZeta]

Yes, what he wants is there to be less subjects; he wants there to be a V IB-Victorian International Baccalaureate.

He never said that.  Given that he did Enviromental Science, as well as the fact that he seems to advocate "high scholarship for its own sake", I think James would probably be in favour of keeping "obscure" subjects rather than eliminating them.

[wildareal]

No he never said that, but that's what he is implying. Why else would he criticise the VCE with its myriad of subjects?

[EvangelionZeta]

Well, his article seems to directly imply that his issue with VCE is in fact the way the courses are designed...  

IB actually has just as many subjects as the VCE, too.

[m@tty]

No he never said that, but that's what he is implying. Why else would he criticise the VCE with its myriad of subjects?

Your assuming. Don't assume.

EvangelionZeta
Didn't he say he was going to make an account today? He should come share his mind, remove the need for assumptions.

[EvangelionZeta]

He probably lost interest.  Either that, or he's celebrating getting into Yale.  :p

[m@tty]

He probably lost interest.  Either that, or he's celebrating getting into Yale.  :p

Nice, what course is he doing there?

[EvangelionZeta]

I think in America they have more general undergraduate degrees or something (ala Melbourne Model).  From what I've heard he plans to major in English and Economics, whilst also studying subjects in Maths, Science and Philosophy.