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Are previous years indicative?
« on: December 17, 2009, 09:36:10 pm »
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Just wondering, if your school has a large cohort in a subject, is the performance in previous years usually indicative of how things will go in the following year? I'm just slightly concerned about two of my subjects, because I feel as though we've got an intelligent year level, and I'm not sure if this means that we're likely to get mediocre results...

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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2009, 09:41:11 pm »
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What do you mean by 'mediocre results...'?
In which subjects does MacRob generally attain 'mediocre results'?
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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2009, 09:43:03 pm »
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Just wondering, if your school has a large cohort in a subject, is the performance in previous years usually indicative of how things will go in the following year? I'm just slightly concerned about two of my subjects, because I feel as though we've got an intelligent year level, and I'm not sure if this means that we're likely to get mediocre results...

Not really. MHS's BM cohort used to be extremely strong with over 10 50s in most years; I think it was 13 in 2007. Then along came my year and there was around 3 I think, and this year, there was around the same if not less (had a very quick peek in The Age so I'm not sure, but normally over 50% of the names are MHS and I only saw 1 or 2 at a glance). However, this mostly applies for smaller subjects. In a school like McRob, I assume their performance on methods and the like is usually around the same since almost everyone does it.
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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2009, 09:48:27 pm »
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it depends on the year level and slighly on the teachers (IMO)
edit: i had a horrible experience with my chem teacher this year and pretty much did the course on my own.... so yeah the teachers do matter
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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 09:53:17 pm »
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I was thinking about Methods and Chemistry, because although Mac.Rob does well by statewide standards, we don't do as well as in our other subjects. We had barely any high 40s in Chemistry and Methods, even though a lot of people worked exceptionally hard. The problem is, my year level's exceptionally scientific (6 students invited to the National Olympiad Summer School, a handful going to NYSF and 3 accepted into NMSS), and I'm not sure if that means that lots of us are going to end up with low 40s, because it's unlikely that many students will get higher.

Ah well. Is there hope for awesome scores?

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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 09:55:10 pm »
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Methods should be quite easy to attain high 40's. I just screwed up the exams, eliminate errors and you will be fine.
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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 10:01:53 pm »
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Hahaha, thanks. I'd really like to ace Methods and Chem, because they're less subjective than English (you never know what you'll get!°, and I love science. I'm just hoping that the fact tht we have a genius scientific cohort means that we'll get lots of 50s and high 40s in Chemistry...

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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 10:03:40 pm »
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I was thinking about Methods and Chemistry, because although Mac.Rob does well by statewide standards, we don't do as well as in our other subjects. We had barely any high 40s in Chemistry and Methods, even though a lot of people worked exceptionally hard. The problem is, my year level's exceptionally scientific (6 students invited to the National Olympiad Summer School, a handful going to NYSF and 3 accepted into NMSS), and I'm not sure if that means that lots of us are going to end up with low 40s, because it's unlikely that many students will get higher.

Ah well. Is there hope for awesome scores?

Work hard! :P  I managed to get 49 in Chem with a really terrible Year 12 Chem teacher and not-so-flash scores in year 11 (and I had a really good teacher in year 11... oh the irony).  Just keep focused, keep ahead of schedule (I found the pace of my teacher to be way too slow), manage your time well with SACs (fake the titration results if needed), and do relevant questions from Checkpoints before each SAC (they use alot of the same kind of questions for the extended response sections).  Use the summer holidays to get ahead.  And also, get a tutor if the situation gets desperate.

I don't think previous years are indicative.  With Mac.Rob's track record, anything is possible.  Don't ever rule out a high score!
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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 10:08:54 pm »
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I was thinking about Methods and Chemistry, because although Mac.Rob does well by statewide standards, we don't do as well as in our other subjects. We had barely any high 40s in Chemistry and Methods, even though a lot of people worked exceptionally hard. The problem is, my year level's exceptionally scientific (6 students invited to the National Olympiad Summer School, a handful going to NYSF and 3 accepted into NMSS), and I'm not sure if that means that lots of us are going to end up with low 40s, because it's unlikely that many students will get higher.

Ah well. Is there hope for awesome scores?

Work hard! :P  I managed to get 49 in Chem with a really terrible Year 12 Chem teacher and not-so-flash scores in year 11 (and I had a really good teacher in year 11... oh the irony).  Just keep focused, keep ahead of schedule (I found the pace of my teacher to be way too slow), manage your time well with SACs (fake the titration results if needed), and do relevant questions from Checkpoints before each SAC (they use alot of the same kind of questions for the extended response sections).  Use the summer holidays to get ahead.  And also, get a tutor if the situation gets desperate.

I don't think previous years are indicative.  With Mac.Rob's track record, anything is possible.  Don't ever rule out a high score!


Thanks. Unfortunately I can't work ahead these holidays, but I know most of the material already. That's got to count for something, right?

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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2009, 11:47:31 am »
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I'm sure it's possible to get high 40s even if your cohort isn't the best.

I got 46 in methods pretty much self-learning the course.  My school and cohort were terrible though, the next highest score in methods was 38 and the median study score overall this year was 26.

So just do your best and I'm sure things will work out (:

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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2009, 11:55:00 am »
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like polky said, work hard and you'll be fine.

I was a bit iffy about the VCE system at the start of the year. But I still managed to do really well in a public school English/Lit cohort.

Basically during the year I had a 98% average in Lit sacs and the next closest was 88%. And for English there was 3 of us above 95% with the next closest lows 80's

Basically only two other people got above 40 in English and no-one else got above 40 in Lit.

So again, work hard and you'll be fine :)

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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2009, 01:10:30 pm »
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I was thinking about Methods and Chemistry, because although Mac.Rob does well by statewide standards, we don't do as well as in our other subjects. We had barely any high 40s in Chemistry and Methods, even though a lot of people worked exceptionally hard. The problem is, my year level's exceptionally scientific (6 students invited to the National Olympiad Summer School, a handful going to NYSF and 3 accepted into NMSS), and I'm not sure if that means that lots of us are going to end up with low 40s, because it's unlikely that many students will get higher.

Ah well. Is there hope for awesome scores?

IMO hard work isn't enough for high scores. Activity does not equal accomplishment.
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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2009, 04:32:06 pm »
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'Work smart, and when it is smart to work hard, do so.' I remember seeing that somewhere.
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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2009, 10:57:20 am »
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I think it is because the scaling is relatively constant so people generally perform the same

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Re: Are previous years indicative?
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2009, 03:59:19 pm »
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I'm sure it's possible to get high 40s even if your cohort isn't the best.

I got 46 in methods pretty much self-learning the course.  My school and cohort were terrible though, the next highest score in methods was 38 and the median study score overall this year was 26.

So just do your best and I'm sure things will work out (:

like polky said, work hard and you'll be fine.

I was a bit iffy about the VCE system at the start of the year. But I still managed to do really well in a public school English/Lit cohort.

Basically during the year I had a 98% average in Lit sacs and the next closest was 88%. And for English there was 3 of us above 95% with the next closest lows 80's

Basically only two other people got above 40 in English and no-one else got above 40 in Lit.

So again, work hard and you'll be fine :)


This cohort thing... don't stress... I can add my own story to these.

My scores for accounting, legal studies and physics far outstripped any other students' in my year... actually, the only subject I wasn't top in was Spec, because I fked up the second exam (C+ ftw... -.-"). Anywayz, the second highest ENTER in my year was 92.XX, and then the scores slumped into the 80s... my ENTER and study scores were still most awesome, despite what most would describe as a "weak cohort". I enjoyed my cohort though... fun bunch of people :)


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