Psychology (with Honours) Monash Uni, Clayton

[amirite?]

Psychology (with Honours)
Monash Uni, Clayton
28851 (CSP), 28853 (IFP)
F/T, P/T   28851   CSP   No   91.70   91.70   6.15   82   94

    * Bachelor of Psychology (with Honours): FT4, PTA.

About the course: A four-year course designed for students who wish to study psychology intensively with a view to pursuing a career as a research or professional psychologist.

In Years 1 to 3 students study nine core psychology subjects which form part of the Australian Psychology Accreditation Council accredited sequence in psychology; seven psychology elective subjects; and eight subjects from a range of recommended non-psychology elective subjects. In order to proceed to Year 4, the Honours program, students must achieve at least the minimum entry requirement that is standard for all Honours programs in Psychology based on the average grade across all core third-year subjects. Students who do not meet the entry requirements for the Honours program will qualify for the award of Bachelor of Psychological Science provided they have successfully completed Years 1-3 of the course

Major studies: Psychology.

Prerequisites: Units 3 and 4–a study score of at least 30 in English (ESL) or 25 in any other English.

Middle-band: Consideration will be given to SEAS applicants.

Selection mode: CY12: ENTER and two-stage process with a middle-band of approximately 20%. NONY12: Academic record including GPA (see institutional page).


Would this course enable me to 'practice' psychology, so to speak?

Also the clearly-in ENTER is 'only' 91.70. Would I be assured a place if I scored higher than this? Seems low for Monash?

Wrong place to ask but are these clearly-ins and fringes relevant to the year 12s of 2010? Are they definite?

[minilunchbox]

Yes, as long as you do Honours, you will be able to register to become a Psychologist and therefore practice. But generally, you'll need a Masters degree after this and most jobs would require you to have a Masters degree or even a PhD. 91.70 isn't that low, it's probably one of the higher ENTERs for Psychology (at least in Victoria).

These are the courses which you can do in order to become a psychologist: http://www.apac.psychology.org.au/Content.aspx?ID=1053

Also I'm pretty sure the clearly-in and fringes are not definite as they can vary (but very slightly) every year so they can be relevant for '10ers.

[amirite?]

Thanks a lot. Ive looked deeper into it and it seems 3 years + one year of honours is what you need to get your bachelor of psychology. Then after youve graduated you need 2 years of supervised work experience (already knew that) before you are a fully fledged psychologist. Looks like this could be for me. The idea of placing Dr. in front of my names is tantalizing too. 91.70 is where I'd about be at my limits so its gonna be a struggle but it will be mighty rewarding if I do get there. Theres also a course at Deakin which is ~87 which would be possibility.

Are you looking into becoming one too?

[minilunchbox]

Since psychologists aren't actual doctors (psychiatrists are and that requires an MD and specialising afterwards), you'll need a PhD to place a Dr. in front of your name, but if you do Masters you can get Professor.

Yeah, I'm looking into becoming one as well but I'll most likely do a BA/BSci at Melbourne and then applying for Honours instead of doing it at Monash in case I change my mind halfway through the course.

[amirite?]

Since psychologists aren't actual doctors (psychiatrists are and that requires an MD and specialising afterwards), you'll need a PhD to place a Dr. in front of your name, but if you do Masters you can get Professor.

Bachelor of Psychology with honours = Dr.
Thats what I thought? If you do a bachelor of applied science (psychology) i think you are called something else. Idc really anything in front of your name is nice. Apart from plain Mr.

[ninwa]

Psychologists aren't doctors, you either need a medical degree or a PhD to have a Dr. in front of your name

[amirite?]

Ok.

Whats the professional title then? Is it a series of letters after your name? BoPsy or something? Or is there nothing?

[minilunchbox]

Most people will do a Masters degree instead of or part of the 2 years work experience and they will get the title Professor or as already stated a PhD gets the title of Dr.

If you do your course at Monash you could have BPsych(Hons) Monash after your name.
You can get another nifty title by joining the Australian Psychological Society http://www.psychology.org.au/membership/applying/grades/. Then you can also have MAPS/Assoc Maps/FAPS or Hon FAPS after your name depending on the type of member you are.

[amirite?]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_credentials_in_psychology

"PhD
    Doctor of Philosophy. A Doctor of Philosophy degree in psychology prepares the student to conduct independent research and to provide professional services (consultation, assessment, diagnosis). However, in order to actually practice psychology and use the title "psychologist", individuals must meet their state requirements and obtain a license to practice psychology."


Hmmmm... So confusing. Maybe you have to do some groundbreaking research to get a PsyD/PhD?

[minilunchbox]

A PhD is just a postgraduate degree that's 3 years (Masters is 2). Honours is actually similar to a PhD because you'll be helping someone else with their research and you still have to write up a thesis only you'll be doing your own research if you do a PhD. Also when you graduate with a PhD you get a fancy blurb talking about your ~groundbreaking research.

A PsyD is more hands-on and less research/theory based than a PhD (I think).

[Glockmeister]

Most people will do a Masters degree instead of or part of the 2 years work experience and they will get the title Professor or as already stated a PhD gets the title of Dr.

If you do your course at Monash you could have BPsych(Hons) Monash after your name.
You can get another nifty title by joining the Australian Psychological Society http://www.psychology.org.au/membership/applying/grades/. Then you can also have MAPS/Assoc Maps/FAPS or Hon FAPS after your name depending on the type of member you are.

A Psychologist with a Masters degree would have the title you and I would use (i.e. Mr for Males, Mrs/Miss/Ms for females). You would be able to stick titles after your name though, so say if I've finished my Masters in Psychology and registered to practice, my title might be say.

Mr Glock Meister BBNSc (Hons) MPsych (Clinical Psychology) MAPS.

And that's the title you'd stick on your business cards say. If say I have a Doctorate, then I could use a title Dr.

Dr Glock Meister BBNSc (Hons) PhD MAPS

Professorships/Associate Professorships are associated with university appointments. You are NOT entitle to use that after graduating with a Masters.

Another note is that you don't have to be a member of the Australian Psychological Society to practice as a Psychologist (I'm not a member of the APS, even though I'm eligible for membership)

A PhD is just a postgraduate degree that's 3 years (Masters is 2). Honours is actually similar to a PhD because you'll be helping someone else with their research and you still have to write up a thesis only you'll be doing your own research if you do a PhD. Also when you graduate with a PhD you get a fancy blurb talking about your ~groundbreaking research.

A PsyD is more hands-on and less research/theory based than a PhD (I think).

Basically from what I understand, most PhD programmes lead to research careers in Psychology whereas DPsych has more of a clinical focus. The DPsych (and the MPsych) have clinical placements within the course which cover the two years of psychological practice that's needed to be admitted as a full Psychologist.

The only note is that the research you do as a PhD/DPsych/MPsych candidate is hardly going to be ground-breaking. It will be however, a unique addition to the scientific body of knowledge that we have in terms of Psychology.

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Ahh right, I wasn't completely sure about the titles for Masters. Thanks for clearing that up.

[amirite?]

I dont understand this DPsych MPsych PhD stuff. I do the 3 years of Psychology to get a basic certificate then I elect to do one of the extensions?

What are study hours, contact hours like with psych?

[amirite?]

Would a Bachelor of Arts at UoM majoring in psychology get me the same qualifications? Is it as good as a full psych degree? Then i'd need to do my masters, etc.

[minilunchbox]

Would a Bachelor of Arts at UoM majoring in psychology get me the same qualifications? Is it as good as a full psych degree? Then i'd need to do my masters, etc.

Yep, as long as you do Honours afterwards which is just an extra year, it's exactly the same as Psychology with Honours at Monash and it'll get you the same qualifications. The difference between the two courses is you'll be competing with other people to get into Honours at UoM while at Monash it's guaranteed as long as you maintain certain marks. Note that you have to do Honours to become a psychologist. Then after that you can do Masters, supervised work experience or another postgraduate degree.