Melbourne Breadth

[Kopite]

Ok, so you're saying that uni's focus more on equipping you with the right personal, communication, problem solving, etc, etc skills because employers are looking more for that then the actual theory behind your studies (not that this is unimportant..). If so, then the Melbourne Model and its objectives make perfect sense. It's just my only concern was how your breadth studies would be recognised academically.You know, so employers can see and appreciate what other skills you've acquired in addition to those of your main area of study. And in saying that, QuantumJG, my concern wouldn't be whether I met the requirements of breadth studies or not.

pretty much. i'm not sure about how your breadth studies are actually academically recognised, although i know for a fact that i get a minor in chemical systems within my commerce degree for my breadth sequence. apparently employers look at the subjects you undertake rather than your actual majors (don't know if this is entirely correct tho, just something i heard from a friend); which means, that even if you don't receive a minor for ur breadth sequences, employers would still take your breadth subjects into account.

[dejan91]

Ok, so you're saying that uni's focus more on equipping you with the right personal, communication, problem solving, etc, etc skills because employers are looking more for that then the actual theory behind your studies (not that this is unimportant..). If so, then the Melbourne Model and its objectives make perfect sense. It's just my only concern was how your breadth studies would be recognised academically.You know, so employers can see and appreciate what other skills you've acquired in addition to those of your main area of study. And in saying that, QuantumJG, my concern wouldn't be whether I met the requirements of breadth studies or not.

pretty much. i'm not sure about how your breadth studies are actually academically recognised, although i know for a fact that i get a minor in chemical systems within my commerce degree for my breadth sequence. apparently employers look at the subjects you undertake rather than your actual majors (don't know if this is entirely correct tho, just something i heard from a friend); which means, that even if you don't receive a minor for ur breadth sequences, employers would still take your breadth subjects into account.

Ahhhh see, now that's what I wanted to hear. I'll talk to the uni people about it more later on, but just wanted some peace of mind for the time being.

[xXNovaxX]

Just wondering, are you sure Kopite that employers even CARE, I can't imagine employers even UNDERSTANDING what subjects you did.... they just want to see a Certificate or whatever qualifications you have, and ask some questions of "why do you want to work here, what have you got to offer" sort of thing?

I am just GUESSING, not saying anybody's wrong here or anything, but this is what I always thought.

[*ryan777*]

Just wondering, are you sure Kopite that employers even CARE, I can't imagine employers even UNDERSTANDING what subjects you did.... they just want to see a Certificate or whatever qualifications you have, and ask some questions of "why do you want to work here, what have you got to offer" sort of thing?

I am just GUESSING, not saying anybody's wrong here or anything, but this is what I always thought.

yeah true, personally i cant see employers doing a whole lot of research into what u actually did at uni lol
that is unless they REALLY wanna hire you

[dejan91]

Well in that case I'm sure they'd be familiar with what type of qualification UoM offers (depth + breadth) so I guess it wold benefit you either way with them knowing you 100% have skills outside your chosen field.

[*ryan777*]

Well in that case I'm sure they'd be familiar with what type of qualification UoM offers (depth + breadth) so I guess it wold benefit you either way with them knowing you 100% have skills outside your chosen field.

i guess so

[QuantumJG]

With breadth I think it's more to just get you studying out of your main area and to just learn about other things. It's probably so you can enter the working world with a broader knowledge and not be restricted to your comfort zone and be able to tackle different things. I'm pretty sure employers would like to see someone who has that quality.

I wasn't ready to go into a new area (like I mean in VCE I did 2 maths and 2 sciences and English was compulsory), so I did finance to do a little maths and to learn about how to handle money.

If you used breadth to learn a language you could say at an interview that you can speak --, that would win you kudos.

I personally love the uni and decided to give breadth a go. I have never regretted my decision.

[schmalex]

Just wondering, are you sure Kopite that employers even CARE, I can't imagine employers even UNDERSTANDING what subjects you did.... they just want to see a Certificate or whatever qualifications you have, and ask some questions of "why do you want to work here, what have you got to offer" sort of thing?

I am just GUESSING, not saying anybody's wrong here or anything, but this is what I always thought.

yeah true, personally i cant see employers doing a whole lot of research into what u actually did at uni lol
that is unless they REALLY wanna hire you

My cousin was applying for a job and the employer did research into the BAND that he was in and watched them play on YouTube. If you're applying for Maccas, no the employers won't care, but if you want a decent job, employers will do their research.

[xXNovaxX]

^ Are you serious? That's really a large measure ><

But I guess its understandable since its Music related, these days artists are out to get discovered via myspace, youtube, tv shows, live gigs etc.

Drama and "arts" are similar, they would be interested to see your works, and performances.

But for other professions such as science, humanities, business etc, they can't exactly "youtube you" LOL.

Guess it depends on how tech-savy the employer is



But they do look a lot at experience.

[xXNovaxX]

Oh really :/

Well lucky for him/her nothing wrong with being in a band haha, its the cases where people have a myspace or whatever and psot things about their boss =P

[dejan91]

^^ Lolll that is reallly wierd for an empoyer to do that. But hey, he got the job didn't he?

Anyway, on the topic of languages, I was wondering how they incorporate diplomas into your degree? I wanted to do a diploma of languages in Japanese and it says they're co-current, so I'm assuming they just slot it in amongst your course subjects and so you have less free time or something. That's just my guess. Anyone know the exact procedure?

[*ryan777*]

yeah i think its as u just said, so maybe like an extra subject each semester or something
but id like to know how it really works too (ill most likely be doing that too)

[dejan91]

Ohhh yeah another Melbourne man *Hi five*. Yeah well that's the only logical thing I could think of so it must be it. What is a diploma anyway? I know it's a lower qualification, but it functions similar to a degree right?

[*ryan777*]

Ohhh yeah another Melbourne man *Hi five*. Yeah well that's the only logical thing I could think of so it must be it. What is a diploma anyway? I know it's a lower qualification, but it functions similar to a degree right?

yeah sounds like a lower degree to me too
but knowing a language will improve ur job prospects quite alot so you should do it
haha UoM FTW!
VN seems to be full of monash students lol

[Kopite]

Just wondering, are you sure Kopite that employers even CARE, I can't imagine employers even UNDERSTANDING what subjects you did.... they just want to see a Certificate or whatever qualifications you have, and ask some questions of "why do you want to work here, what have you got to offer" sort of thing?

I am just GUESSING, not saying anybody's wrong here or anything, but this is what I always thought.

yeah true, personally i cant see employers doing a whole lot of research into what u actually did at uni lol
that is unless they REALLY wanna hire you

My cousin was applying for a job and the employer did research into the BAND that he was in and watched them play on YouTube. If you're applying for Maccas, no the employers won't care, but if you want a decent job, employers will do their research.

like i said, heard it from a friend. don't know if it is entirely true, and i may have took what he said out of context, because we were talking about whether i should pursue a double (finance/economics) or single major (finance), and he may have been trying to make the point that majors (in commerce) don't matter as much as the subjects that you do (obviously employers will recognise subjects within their own area rather than breadth subjects). hope that made sense.